john larkin
2024-05-22 21:09:38 UTC
Discussion:
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Jeroen Belleman
2024-05-23 09:00:28 UTC
Artist's impression of ... something?
Jeroen Belleman
Jeroen Belleman
john larkin
2024-05-23 14:29:18 UTC
On Thu, 23 May 2024 11:00:28 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
Artist impressions of electronics are often hilarious. Trace routings
are the instant giveaway; they make no sense.
I don't understand why people pay for absurd stock images when they
could use a real picture of one of their real boards. Probably because
they hire web designers who can't tell the difference.
Our new web site had that problem, full of absurd stock images. I made
them use pics of real boards and schematics.
https://highlandtechnology.com/
That first image is a digital delay generator board. Maybe we DO buy
FPGAs with glowing blue stars on top. I think someone took some
artistic license, but it's based on a real board.
Abstract images of PCBs are the popular-culture vision of technology.
Weird.
Artist impressions of electronics are often hilarious. Trace routings
are the instant giveaway; they make no sense.
I don't understand why people pay for absurd stock images when they
could use a real picture of one of their real boards. Probably because
they hire web designers who can't tell the difference.
Our new web site had that problem, full of absurd stock images. I made
them use pics of real boards and schematics.
https://highlandtechnology.com/
That first image is a digital delay generator board. Maybe we DO buy
FPGAs with glowing blue stars on top. I think someone took some
artistic license, but it's based on a real board.
Abstract images of PCBs are the popular-culture vision of technology.
Weird.
Jeroen Belleman
2024-05-23 20:40:54 UTC
Post by john larkin
On Thu, 23 May 2024 11:00:28 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
Artist impressions of electronics are often hilarious. Trace routings
are the instant giveaway; they make no sense.
I don't understand why people pay for absurd stock images when they
could use a real picture of one of their real boards. Probably because
they hire web designers who can't tell the difference.
Our new web site had that problem, full of absurd stock images. I made
them use pics of real boards and schematics.
https://highlandtechnology.com/
That first image is a digital delay generator board. Maybe we DO buy
FPGAs with glowing blue stars on top. I think someone took some
artistic license, but it's based on a real board.
Abstract images of PCBs are the popular-culture vision of technology.
Weird.
Hmmm. I also detest web pages with things that move. Get rid ofOn Thu, 23 May 2024 11:00:28 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
Artist impressions of electronics are often hilarious. Trace routings
are the instant giveaway; they make no sense.
I don't understand why people pay for absurd stock images when they
could use a real picture of one of their real boards. Probably because
they hire web designers who can't tell the difference.
Our new web site had that problem, full of absurd stock images. I made
them use pics of real boards and schematics.
https://highlandtechnology.com/
That first image is a digital delay generator board. Maybe we DO buy
FPGAs with glowing blue stars on top. I think someone took some
artistic license, but it's based on a real board.
Abstract images of PCBs are the popular-culture vision of technology.
Weird.
that useless animated arrow. It's irritating.
Jeroen Belleman
john larkin
2024-05-23 21:42:03 UTC
On Thu, 23 May 2024 22:40:54 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
to go next. But I didn't suggest that it should hop up and down like
that.
I general, the web has got very annoying lately. Popups, ads,
overlays, opening new windows, and more ads.
Youtube is worthless now.
Post by Jeroen Belleman
that useless animated arrow. It's irritating.
Jeroen Belleman
I had them add the arrow so people would realize to scroll down, wherePost by john larkin
On Thu, 23 May 2024 11:00:28 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
Artist impressions of electronics are often hilarious. Trace routings
are the instant giveaway; they make no sense.
I don't understand why people pay for absurd stock images when they
could use a real picture of one of their real boards. Probably because
they hire web designers who can't tell the difference.
Our new web site had that problem, full of absurd stock images. I made
them use pics of real boards and schematics.
https://highlandtechnology.com/
That first image is a digital delay generator board. Maybe we DO buy
FPGAs with glowing blue stars on top. I think someone took some
artistic license, but it's based on a real board.
Abstract images of PCBs are the popular-culture vision of technology.
Weird.
Hmmm. I also detest web pages with things that move. Get rid ofOn Thu, 23 May 2024 11:00:28 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
Artist impressions of electronics are often hilarious. Trace routings
are the instant giveaway; they make no sense.
I don't understand why people pay for absurd stock images when they
could use a real picture of one of their real boards. Probably because
they hire web designers who can't tell the difference.
Our new web site had that problem, full of absurd stock images. I made
them use pics of real boards and schematics.
https://highlandtechnology.com/
That first image is a digital delay generator board. Maybe we DO buy
FPGAs with glowing blue stars on top. I think someone took some
artistic license, but it's based on a real board.
Abstract images of PCBs are the popular-culture vision of technology.
Weird.
that useless animated arrow. It's irritating.
Jeroen Belleman
to go next. But I didn't suggest that it should hop up and down like
that.
I general, the web has got very annoying lately. Popups, ads,
overlays, opening new windows, and more ads.
Youtube is worthless now.
Lasse Langwadt
2024-05-23 16:26:55 UTC
might be AI ..
bitrex
2024-05-23 17:07:48 UTC
This was generated on a circa 2016 Tesla M40 in about 20 seconds based
on the original image as a guide:
<https://imgur.com/a/baM5wMn>
They're about $80 surplus now which is a nice value for an older GPU
with 24 gigs of RAM.
on the original image as a guide:
<https://imgur.com/a/baM5wMn>
They're about $80 surplus now which is a nice value for an older GPU
with 24 gigs of RAM.
john larkin
2024-05-23 17:19:54 UTC
Post by bitrex
This was generated on a circa 2016 Tesla M40 in about 20 seconds based
<https://imgur.com/a/baM5wMn>
They're about $80 surplus now which is a nice value for an older GPU
with 24 gigs of RAM.
I would fire, and maybe harm, anybody who laid out a board that bad.This was generated on a circa 2016 Tesla M40 in about 20 seconds based
<https://imgur.com/a/baM5wMn>
They're about $80 surplus now which is a nice value for an older GPU
with 24 gigs of RAM.
bitrex
2024-05-23 17:41:03 UTC
Post by john larkin
One more AI PCB hallucination, this one looks sorta realistic, if youPost by bitrex
This was generated on a circa 2016 Tesla M40 in about 20 seconds based
<https://imgur.com/a/baM5wMn>
They're about $80 surplus now which is a nice value for an older GPU
with 24 gigs of RAM.
I would fire, and maybe harm, anybody who laid out a board that bad.This was generated on a circa 2016 Tesla M40 in about 20 seconds based
<https://imgur.com/a/baM5wMn>
They're about $80 surplus now which is a nice value for an older GPU
with 24 gigs of RAM.
squint:
<https://imgur.com/a/6nxahFw>
You can select XY tiling with this software and tile them out to cover a
wall!
I select X-axis tiling on this one and it cranks out very usable model
train layout/LEGO diorama backgrounds for my nephew:
<https://imgur.com/a/vljB0CI>
john larkin
2024-05-23 18:49:59 UTC
Post by bitrex
<https://imgur.com/a/6nxahFw>
You can select XY tiling with this software and tile them out to cover a
wall!
Typical crazy, idiotic traces. Like a car with the wheels on thePost by john larkin
One more AI PCB hallucination, this one looks sorta realistic, if youPost by bitrex
This was generated on a circa 2016 Tesla M40 in about 20 seconds based
<https://imgur.com/a/baM5wMn>
They're about $80 surplus now which is a nice value for an older GPU
with 24 gigs of RAM.
I would fire, and maybe harm, anybody who laid out a board that bad.This was generated on a circa 2016 Tesla M40 in about 20 seconds based
<https://imgur.com/a/baM5wMn>
They're about $80 surplus now which is a nice value for an older GPU
with 24 gigs of RAM.
<https://imgur.com/a/6nxahFw>
You can select XY tiling with this software and tile them out to cover a
wall!
sides, or a shower facing the wall.
bitrex
2024-05-23 18:58:38 UTC
Post by john larkin
sides, or a shower facing the wall.
Yeah, I'll start getting concerned when it can be sensible with layouts.Post by bitrex
<https://imgur.com/a/6nxahFw>
You can select XY tiling with this software and tile them out to cover a
wall!
Typical crazy, idiotic traces. Like a car with the wheels on thePost by john larkin
One more AI PCB hallucination, this one looks sorta realistic, if youPost by bitrex
This was generated on a circa 2016 Tesla M40 in about 20 seconds based
<https://imgur.com/a/baM5wMn>
They're about $80 surplus now which is a nice value for an older GPU
with 24 gigs of RAM.
I would fire, and maybe harm, anybody who laid out a board that bad.This was generated on a circa 2016 Tesla M40 in about 20 seconds based
<https://imgur.com/a/baM5wMn>
They're about $80 surplus now which is a nice value for an older GPU
with 24 gigs of RAM.
<https://imgur.com/a/6nxahFw>
You can select XY tiling with this software and tile them out to cover a
wall!
sides, or a shower facing the wall.
But that'll be some other kind of software, this doesn't "know" anything
about electrical rules or any of that.
It stitches together fragments of other images until some other AI that
also doesn't know anything about the rules can't easily distinguish it
from a training image, whaddya want.
john larkin
2024-05-23 20:08:47 UTC
Post by bitrex
But that'll be some other kind of software, this doesn't "know" anything
about electrical rules or any of that.
It stitches together fragments of other images until some other AI that
also doesn't know anything about the rules can't easily distinguish it
from a training image, whaddya want.
There is auto-place and auto-route PCB sofrware - most layout programsPost by john larkin
sides, or a shower facing the wall.
Yeah, I'll start getting concerned when it can be sensible with layouts.Post by bitrex
<https://imgur.com/a/6nxahFw>
You can select XY tiling with this software and tile them out to cover a
wall!
Typical crazy, idiotic traces. Like a car with the wheels on thePost by john larkin
One more AI PCB hallucination, this one looks sorta realistic, if youPost by bitrex
This was generated on a circa 2016 Tesla M40 in about 20 seconds based
<https://imgur.com/a/baM5wMn>
They're about $80 surplus now which is a nice value for an older GPU
with 24 gigs of RAM.
I would fire, and maybe harm, anybody who laid out a board that bad.This was generated on a circa 2016 Tesla M40 in about 20 seconds based
<https://imgur.com/a/baM5wMn>
They're about $80 surplus now which is a nice value for an older GPU
with 24 gigs of RAM.
<https://imgur.com/a/6nxahFw>
You can select XY tiling with this software and tile them out to cover a
wall!
sides, or a shower facing the wall.
But that'll be some other kind of software, this doesn't "know" anything
about electrical rules or any of that.
It stitches together fragments of other images until some other AI that
also doesn't know anything about the rules can't easily distinguish it
from a training image, whaddya want.
do that - but both tend to be terrible.
Jeff Liebermann
2024-05-24 14:30:35 UTC
It's AI generated. Here's more of the same, possibly from the same
source:
<https://www.vecteezy.com/search_by_image/33112087?content_type=image&similar_image_search=true>
Notice that these are from different artists.
My vote for the winner is this AI photo, where all the leads are
shorted together:
<https://www.vecteezy.com/photo/24158349-macro-photography-of-electronic-circuit-board-top-view-ai-generative>
source:
<https://www.vecteezy.com/search_by_image/33112087?content_type=image&similar_image_search=true>
Notice that these are from different artists.
My vote for the winner is this AI photo, where all the leads are
shorted together:
<https://www.vecteezy.com/photo/24158349-macro-photography-of-electronic-circuit-board-top-view-ai-generative>
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john larkin
2024-05-24 14:57:35 UTC
Post by Jeff Liebermann
It's AI generated. Here's more of the same, possibly from the same
<https://www.vecteezy.com/search_by_image/33112087?content_type=image&similar_image_search=true>
Notice that these are from different artists.
This oneIt's AI generated. Here's more of the same, possibly from the same
<https://www.vecteezy.com/search_by_image/33112087?content_type=image&similar_image_search=true>
Notice that these are from different artists.
https://www.vecteezy.com/photo/33115990-electronic-circuity-intricately-designed-on-circuit-boards-driving-technological-innovations-ai-generated
looks like the pilgrimage to Mecca.
Post by Jeff Liebermann
My vote for the winner is this AI photo, where all the leads are
<https://www.vecteezy.com/photo/24158349-macro-photography-of-electronic-circuit-board-top-view-ai-generative>
Cool. These things are always artistically blurred, as if a badMy vote for the winner is this AI photo, where all the leads are
<https://www.vecteezy.com/photo/24158349-macro-photography-of-electronic-circuit-board-top-view-ai-generative>
photographer had shot a real photo.
Even PCB shops use absurd stock photos of "their" boards.
I wish my boards had traces that glow.
Actually, some recently did. We bought a gigantic power supply and
experimented with how well a big polyfuse can protect various width
outer and inner traces.
Jeff Liebermann
2024-05-25 18:10:19 UTC
Post by john larkin
This one
https://www.vecteezy.com/photo/33115990-electronic-circuity-intricately-designed-on-circuit-boards-driving-technological-innovations-ai-generated
looks like the pilgrimage to Mecca.
You're right. It does look like the Kaaba:This one
https://www.vecteezy.com/photo/33115990-electronic-circuity-intricately-designed-on-circuit-boards-driving-technological-innovations-ai-generated
looks like the pilgrimage to Mecca.
<Loading Image...
>It works something like a compass, where Muslim worshipers face in the
direction of the Mecca. That's probably functional if there was only
one Kaaba, but global proliferation of similar attractors might result
in some confusion. I had a sample of that in early college (about
1965) when the national anthem was played over the public address
system every morning before the start of classes. We were expected to
face the flag, which was rather awkward if we were inside a building
with no flags in sight. I would usually end up facing a blank wall or
a urinal.
Post by john larkin
photographer had shot a real photo.
Even PCB shops use absurd stock photos of "their" boards.
There's a little more behind image defects and artifacts inPost by Jeff Liebermann
My vote for the winner is this AI photo, where all the leads are
<https://www.vecteezy.com/photo/24158349-macro-photography-of-electronic-circuit-board-top-view-ai-generative>
Cool. These things are always artistically blurred, as if a badMy vote for the winner is this AI photo, where all the leads are
<https://www.vecteezy.com/photo/24158349-macro-photography-of-electronic-circuit-board-top-view-ai-generative>
photographer had shot a real photo.
Even PCB shops use absurd stock photos of "their" boards.
advertising photography. I wrote something about it in RBT
(rec.bicycling.tech) where an obvious PhotoShoped image included
mistakes intended to extend the time that a reader inspects the image
trying to determine why the image looks wrong.
<https://rec.bicycles.tech.narkive.com/sGdviHeE/bicycle-infrastucture#post8>
<https://rec.bicycles.tech.narkive.com/sGdviHeE/bicycle-infrastucture#post20>
You can probably see traces glow in your FLIR camera. I don't own an
IR camera (yet) so I use liquid crystal sheets.
<https://www.edmundoptics.com/f/temperature-sensitive-liquid-crystal-sheets/11878/>
I also have a flat ZipLoc bag of ferrofluid:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrofluid>
For DC and low frequency AC, I just place the bag over the PCB.
Current flow is easily visible. Unfortunately, the frequency response
of the fluid is rather limited making it useless for all but the
slowest responding voltage regulators. However, that was exactly what
I needed for a switcher intended for an RF sensitive environment. Slow
down the switcher until the RFI/EMI disappears.
Post by john larkin
Actually, some recently did. We bought a gigantic power supply and
experimented with how well a big polyfuse can protect various width
outer and inner traces.
Learn by Destroying(tm)?Actually, some recently did. We bought a gigantic power supply and
experimented with how well a big polyfuse can protect various width
outer and inner traces.
--
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PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
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Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
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john larkin
2024-05-25 19:43:53 UTC
Post by Jeff Liebermann
It works something like a compass, where Muslim worshipers face in the
direction of the Mecca. That's probably functional if there was only
one Kaaba, but global proliferation of similar attractors might result
in some confusion. I had a sample of that in early college (about
1965) when the national anthem was played over the public address
system every morning before the start of classes. We were expected to
face the flag, which was rather awkward if we were inside a building
with no flags in sight. I would usually end up facing a blank wall or
a urinal.
advertising photography. I wrote something about it in RBT
(rec.bicycling.tech) where an obvious PhotoShoped image included
mistakes intended to extend the time that a reader inspects the image
trying to determine why the image looks wrong.
<https://rec.bicycles.tech.narkive.com/sGdviHeE/bicycle-infrastucture#post8>
<https://rec.bicycles.tech.narkive.com/sGdviHeE/bicycle-infrastucture#post20>
You can probably see traces glow in your FLIR camera. I don't own an
IR camera (yet) so I use liquid crystal sheets.
<https://www.edmundoptics.com/f/temperature-sensitive-liquid-crystal-sheets/11878/>
We recently bought a few nice thermal imagers with clip-on close-upPost by john larkin
This one
https://www.vecteezy.com/photo/33115990-electronic-circuity-intricately-designed-on-circuit-boards-driving-technological-innovations-ai-generated
looks like the pilgrimage to Mecca.
<https://cdn.britannica.com/43/156343-050-CD194769/pilgrims-Muslim-Kabah-Great-Mosque-of-Mecca.jpg>This one
https://www.vecteezy.com/photo/33115990-electronic-circuity-intricately-designed-on-circuit-boards-driving-technological-innovations-ai-generated
looks like the pilgrimage to Mecca.
It works something like a compass, where Muslim worshipers face in the
direction of the Mecca. That's probably functional if there was only
one Kaaba, but global proliferation of similar attractors might result
in some confusion. I had a sample of that in early college (about
1965) when the national anthem was played over the public address
system every morning before the start of classes. We were expected to
face the flag, which was rather awkward if we were inside a building
with no flags in sight. I would usually end up facing a blank wall or
a urinal.
Post by john larkin
photographer had shot a real photo.
Even PCB shops use absurd stock photos of "their" boards.
There's a little more behind image defects and artifacts inPost by Jeff Liebermann
My vote for the winner is this AI photo, where all the leads are
<https://www.vecteezy.com/photo/24158349-macro-photography-of-electronic-circuit-board-top-view-ai-generative>
Cool. These things are always artistically blurred, as if a badMy vote for the winner is this AI photo, where all the leads are
<https://www.vecteezy.com/photo/24158349-macro-photography-of-electronic-circuit-board-top-view-ai-generative>
photographer had shot a real photo.
Even PCB shops use absurd stock photos of "their" boards.
advertising photography. I wrote something about it in RBT
(rec.bicycling.tech) where an obvious PhotoShoped image included
mistakes intended to extend the time that a reader inspects the image
trying to determine why the image looks wrong.
<https://rec.bicycles.tech.narkive.com/sGdviHeE/bicycle-infrastucture#post8>
<https://rec.bicycles.tech.narkive.com/sGdviHeE/bicycle-infrastucture#post20>
You can probably see traces glow in your FLIR camera. I don't own an
IR camera (yet) so I use liquid crystal sheets.
<https://www.edmundoptics.com/f/temperature-sensitive-liquid-crystal-sheets/11878/>
lenses, about $700 total. I could post the details next week, if
anyone is interested.
Jeff Liebermann
2024-05-25 22:27:56 UTC
Post by john larkin
lenses, about $700 total. I could post the details next week, if
anyone is interested.
I don't currently have a project that could justify the purchase of anPost by Jeff Liebermann
You can probably see traces glow in your FLIR camera. I don't own an
IR camera (yet) so I use liquid crystal sheets.
<https://www.edmundoptics.com/f/temperature-sensitive-liquid-crystal-sheets/11878/>
We recently bought a few nice thermal imagers with clip-on close-upYou can probably see traces glow in your FLIR camera. I don't own an
IR camera (yet) so I use liquid crystal sheets.
<https://www.edmundoptics.com/f/temperature-sensitive-liquid-crystal-sheets/11878/>
lenses, about $700 total. I could post the details next week, if
anyone is interested.
IR camera. However, I am curious. If it's convenient for you, I
would be interested in specs and a sample photos.
Video of warm PCB traces (1 amp) viewed THROUGH the PCB using InfiRay
T2S+ Thermal Camera ($339):
"How To View Current Flow In PCB Tracks! A New Way To Trace Short
Circuits?"
(7:12)
Infi Ray T2S+ data sheet:
<https://www.infiray.com/products/t2s-t2l-thermal-camera-for-smartphone/>
<https://www.infiray.com/uploads/file/datasheet-t2s-t2l-thermal-camera-for-smartphone.pdf>
Included is the now obligatory AI buzzword salad:
"AI-Temp Algorithm Analysis"
<https://www.infiray.com/why-is-infiray-thermography-so-accurate-ai-temp-algorithm-analysis.html>
Translation: If you're not seeing your predicted results, the
"AI-Temp Thermography Algorithms Set" will gladly adjust your results
to match your expectations. Sigh...
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Jeroen Belleman
2024-05-24 18:17:55 UTC
Post by Jeff Liebermann
It's AI generated. Here's more of the same, possibly from the same
<https://www.vecteezy.com/search_by_image/33112087?content_type=image&similar_image_search=true>
Notice that these are from different artists.
My vote for the winner is this AI photo, where all the leads are
<https://www.vecteezy.com/photo/24158349-macro-photography-of-electronic-circuit-board-top-view-ai-generative>
Hi Jeff! It's been some time we had news from you! Good toIt's AI generated. Here's more of the same, possibly from the same
<https://www.vecteezy.com/search_by_image/33112087?content_type=image&similar_image_search=true>
Notice that these are from different artists.
My vote for the winner is this AI photo, where all the leads are
<https://www.vecteezy.com/photo/24158349-macro-photography-of-electronic-circuit-board-top-view-ai-generative>
see you're still kicking.
Let's call it Artificial Ignorance, or Artifical Stupidity.
It has some way to go yet before it will be truly convincing.
Not sure if that's good or bad.
Jeroen Belleman
Jeff Liebermann
2024-05-25 17:26:51 UTC
On Fri, 24 May 2024 20:17:55 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
from SED just prior to the pandemic (early 2020) because I needed more
time for other things. SED was just one of several casualties. We
also had the CZU WildFire in Aug 2020. I gave up in Dec 2021 and
closed my office. Moving all the junk from the office to the house is
a continuing nightmare. Then came hiatal hernia surgery and cataract
eye surgery. Both took a rather long time to recover. I think I'm
done with all that and expect to be spending a little more time on
SED. Another reason I disappeared is that I haven't been keeping up
to date on what's new in electronics, RF, computers, etc. I thought
it best to read before I write, but couldn't resist adding a few
uninformed comments.
opinion.
However, I can offer an interesting anecdote. I've continued burning
too much time on RBT (rec.bicycling.tech). Apparently by accident, I
received a Microsoft's CoPirate AI opinion on prospective innovations
in cycling equipment:
<https://rec.bicycles.tech.narkive.com/LM9ryTjp/the-ai-specified-bicycle-features-of-the-future>
I noticed that none of the AI suggestions are really innovative, new
or even clever. Also, they don't reflect any of the radical design
ideas I find in the bicycle design forums (which admittedly might be a
little too radical):
<https://bicycledesign.net>
<https://www.yankodesign.com/search/?q=bicycle#gsc.tab=1&gsc.q=bicycle>
That's to be expected because the AI was trained on data from existing
technology. When the AI is allowed to extrapolate trends and actually
attempt to innovate, the pundits call it "hallucinating". If I use AI
to brainstorm new approaches and ideas, all I'm going to get are
today's mundane, mediocre and probably patented technologies.
Let's hope that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a fire.
Post by Jeroen Belleman
see you're still kicking.
Thanks. I'm alive and mostly well. Short summary. I disappearedPost by Jeff Liebermann
It's AI generated. Here's more of the same, possibly from the same
<https://www.vecteezy.com/search_by_image/33112087?content_type=image&similar_image_search=true>
Notice that these are from different artists.
My vote for the winner is this AI photo, where all the leads are
<https://www.vecteezy.com/photo/24158349-macro-photography-of-electronic-circuit-board-top-view-ai-generative>
Hi Jeff! It's been some time we had news from you! Good toIt's AI generated. Here's more of the same, possibly from the same
<https://www.vecteezy.com/search_by_image/33112087?content_type=image&similar_image_search=true>
Notice that these are from different artists.
My vote for the winner is this AI photo, where all the leads are
<https://www.vecteezy.com/photo/24158349-macro-photography-of-electronic-circuit-board-top-view-ai-generative>
see you're still kicking.
from SED just prior to the pandemic (early 2020) because I needed more
time for other things. SED was just one of several casualties. We
also had the CZU WildFire in Aug 2020. I gave up in Dec 2021 and
closed my office. Moving all the junk from the office to the house is
a continuing nightmare. Then came hiatal hernia surgery and cataract
eye surgery. Both took a rather long time to recover. I think I'm
done with all that and expect to be spending a little more time on
SED. Another reason I disappeared is that I haven't been keeping up
to date on what's new in electronics, RF, computers, etc. I thought
it best to read before I write, but couldn't resist adding a few
uninformed comments.
Post by Jeroen Belleman
Let's call it Artificial Ignorance, or Artifical Stupidity.
It has some way to go yet before it will be truly convincing.
Not sure if that's good or bad.
To avoid yet another endless AI discussion, I won't present myLet's call it Artificial Ignorance, or Artifical Stupidity.
It has some way to go yet before it will be truly convincing.
Not sure if that's good or bad.
opinion.
However, I can offer an interesting anecdote. I've continued burning
too much time on RBT (rec.bicycling.tech). Apparently by accident, I
received a Microsoft's CoPirate AI opinion on prospective innovations
in cycling equipment:
<https://rec.bicycles.tech.narkive.com/LM9ryTjp/the-ai-specified-bicycle-features-of-the-future>
I noticed that none of the AI suggestions are really innovative, new
or even clever. Also, they don't reflect any of the radical design
ideas I find in the bicycle design forums (which admittedly might be a
little too radical):
<https://bicycledesign.net>
<https://www.yankodesign.com/search/?q=bicycle#gsc.tab=1&gsc.q=bicycle>
That's to be expected because the AI was trained on data from existing
technology. When the AI is allowed to extrapolate trends and actually
attempt to innovate, the pundits call it "hallucinating". If I use AI
to brainstorm new approaches and ideas, all I'm going to get are
today's mundane, mediocre and probably patented technologies.
Let's hope that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a fire.
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Jeff Liebermann ***@cruzio.com
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Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
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Jeff Liebermann ***@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558