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Cursitor Doom
2025-03-29 17:44:37 UTC
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Well, I thought DT was joking about seizing Greenland, but it appears
he's serious! That's quite a bold move to say the least! Leaving aside
the right/wrong debate over such a move, does it not now give China a
free pass to seize the territory first - if it can act fast enough -
since the unthinkable has not only been thought, but spoken aloud as a
stated plan as well? I mean it kind of confers legitimacy on arbitrary
territorial seizures if the US can do it, wouldn't you say?

Your pal,

CD
john larkin
2025-03-29 18:01:40 UTC
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Well, I thought DT was joking about seizing Greenland, but it appears
he's serious! That's quite a bold move to say the least! Leaving aside
the right/wrong debate over such a move, does it not now give China a
free pass to seize the territory first - if it can act fast enough -
since the unthinkable has not only been thought, but spoken aloud as a
stated plan as well? I mean it kind of confers legitimacy on arbitrary
territorial seizures if the US can do it, wouldn't you say?
Your pal,
CD
Stop following the news and design some electronics. You'll feel
better and maybe even be useful.
Cursitor Doom
2025-03-29 18:39:35 UTC
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Well, I thought DT was joking about seizing Greenland, but it appears
he's serious! That's quite a bold move to say the least! Leaving aside
the right/wrong debate over such a move, does it not now give China a
free pass to seize the territory first - if it can act fast enough -
since the unthinkable has not only been thought, but spoken aloud as a
stated plan as well? I mean it kind of confers legitimacy on arbitrary
territorial seizures if the US can do it, wouldn't you say?
Your pal,
CD
Stop following the news and design some electronics. You'll feel
better and maybe even be useful.
Ouch! Bad day today, John?
john larkin
2025-03-29 20:00:39 UTC
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Well, I thought DT was joking about seizing Greenland, but it appears
he's serious! That's quite a bold move to say the least! Leaving aside
the right/wrong debate over such a move, does it not now give China a
free pass to seize the territory first - if it can act fast enough -
since the unthinkable has not only been thought, but spoken aloud as a
stated plan as well? I mean it kind of confers legitimacy on arbitrary
territorial seizures if the US can do it, wouldn't you say?
Your pal,
CD
Stop following the news and design some electronics. You'll feel
better and maybe even be useful.
Ouch! Bad day today, John?
The sun is bright, birds are chirping, crows are croaking, all is
well. Except it's time for the weekly Safeway run.

I expect we'll soon be having Greenland restaurants, alongside the
French and Mexican and Italian. Can't wait.
Phil Hobbs
2025-03-29 20:28:02 UTC
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Well, I thought DT was joking about seizing Greenland, but it appears
he's serious! That's quite a bold move to say the least! Leaving aside
the right/wrong debate over such a move, does it not now give China a
free pass to seize the territory first - if it can act fast enough -
since the unthinkable has not only been thought, but spoken aloud as a
stated plan as well? I mean it kind of confers legitimacy on arbitrary
territorial seizures if the US can do it, wouldn't you say?
Your pal,
CD
Stop following the news and design some electronics. You'll feel
better and maybe even be useful.
Ouch! Bad day today, John?
The sun is bright, birds are chirping, crows are croaking, all is
well. Except it's time for the weekly Safeway run.
I expect we'll soon be having Greenland restaurants, alongside the
French and Mexican and Italian. Can't wait.
Could be a bit repetitive, all that fish fried in seal 🦭 blubber.

Cheers 🍻

Phil Hobbs
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Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Phil Hobbs
2025-03-29 20:32:27 UTC
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Well, I thought DT was joking about seizing Greenland, but it appears
he's serious! That's quite a bold move to say the least! Leaving aside
the right/wrong debate over such a move, does it not now give China a
free pass to seize the territory first - if it can act fast enough -
since the unthinkable has not only been thought, but spoken aloud as a
stated plan as well? I mean it kind of confers legitimacy on arbitrary
territorial seizures if the US can do it, wouldn't you say?
Your pal,
CD
Stop following the news and design some electronics. You'll feel
better and maybe even be useful.
Ouch! Bad day today, John?
The sun is bright, birds are chirping, crows are croaking, all is
well. Except it's time for the weekly Safeway run.
I expect we'll soon be having Greenland restaurants, alongside the
French and Mexican and Italian. Can't wait.
Could be a bit repetitive, all that fish fried in seal 🦭 blubber.
Oh, and a shout-out to the Fall of Civilizations podcast for their
excellent 2021 episode on the Greenland vikings.



Cheers

Phil Hobbs
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Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC /
Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
john larkin
2025-03-30 14:59:50 UTC
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Well, I thought DT was joking about seizing Greenland, but it appears
he's serious! That's quite a bold move to say the least! Leaving aside
the right/wrong debate over such a move, does it not now give China a
free pass to seize the territory first - if it can act fast enough -
since the unthinkable has not only been thought, but spoken aloud as a
stated plan as well? I mean it kind of confers legitimacy on arbitrary
territorial seizures if the US can do it, wouldn't you say?
Your pal,
CD
Stop following the news and design some electronics. You'll feel
better and maybe even be useful.
Ouch! Bad day today, John?
The sun is bright, birds are chirping, crows are croaking, all is
well. Except it's time for the weekly Safeway run.
I expect we'll soon be having Greenland restaurants, alongside the
French and Mexican and Italian. Can't wait.
Could be a bit repetitive, all that fish fried in seal ? blubber.
Oh, and a shout-out to the Fall of Civilizations podcast for their
excellent 2021 episode on the Greenland vikings.
http://youtu.be/lmbY-GrM8pI
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Cool. Thanks.
Dan Green
2025-03-29 21:01:59 UTC
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Well, I thought DT was joking about seizing Greenland, but it appears
he's serious! That's quite a bold move to say the least! Leaving aside
the right/wrong debate over such a move, does it not now give China a
free pass to seize the territory first - if it can act fast enough -
since the unthinkable has not only been thought, but spoken aloud as a
stated plan as well? I mean it kind of confers legitimacy on arbitrary
territorial seizures if the US can do it, wouldn't you say?
Your pal,
CD
Stop following the news and design some electronics. You'll feel
better and maybe even be useful.
Ouch! Bad day today, John?
The sun is bright, birds are chirping, crows are croaking, all is
well. Except it's time for the weekly Safeway run.
I expect we'll soon be having Greenland restaurants, alongside the
French and Mexican and Italian. Can't wait.
Do you like Canadian cuisine? Cheap maple syrup comin' soon, too! ;->
john larkin
2025-03-29 22:28:42 UTC
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Well, I thought DT was joking about seizing Greenland, but it appears
he's serious! That's quite a bold move to say the least! Leaving aside
the right/wrong debate over such a move, does it not now give China a
free pass to seize the territory first - if it can act fast enough -
since the unthinkable has not only been thought, but spoken aloud as a
stated plan as well? I mean it kind of confers legitimacy on arbitrary
territorial seizures if the US can do it, wouldn't you say?
Your pal,
CD
Stop following the news and design some electronics. You'll feel
better and maybe even be useful.
Ouch! Bad day today, John?
The sun is bright, birds are chirping, crows are croaking, all is
well. Except it's time for the weekly Safeway run.
I expect we'll soon be having Greenland restaurants, alongside the
French and Mexican and Italian. Can't wait.
Do you like Canadian cuisine? Cheap maple syrup comin' soon, too! ;->
We have cool Peruvian, Portugese, Mexican, Thai, Japanese, Korean,
Chinese dumplings, all sorts of stuff. But for some reason, we don't
have any Canadian restaurants.
bitrex
2025-03-29 22:00:55 UTC
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Well, I thought DT was joking about seizing Greenland, but it appears
he's serious! That's quite a bold move to say the least! Leaving aside
the right/wrong debate over such a move, does it not now give China a
free pass to seize the territory first - if it can act fast enough -
since the unthinkable has not only been thought, but spoken aloud as a
stated plan as well? I mean it kind of confers legitimacy on arbitrary
territorial seizures if the US can do it, wouldn't you say?
Your pal,
CD
If the US losing to Vietnam and Afghanistan felt bad, imagine how bad
losing to Denmark will feel..
bitrex
2025-03-29 22:42:43 UTC
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Well, I thought DT was joking about seizing Greenland, but it appears
he's serious! That's quite a bold move to say the least! Leaving aside
the right/wrong debate over such a move, does it not now give China a
free pass to seize the territory first - if it can act fast enough -
since the unthinkable has not only been thought, but spoken aloud as a
stated plan as well? I mean it kind of confers legitimacy on arbitrary
territorial seizures if the US can do it, wouldn't you say?
Your pal,
CD
If the US losing to Vietnam and Afghanistan felt bad, imagine how bad
losing to Denmark will feel..
Dan Green
2025-03-30 13:00:30 UTC
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Well, I thought DT was joking about seizing Greenland, but it appears
he's serious! That's quite a bold move to say the least! Leaving aside
the right/wrong debate over such a move, does it not now give China a
free pass to seize the territory first - if it can act fast enough -
since the unthinkable has not only been thought, but spoken aloud as a
stated plan as well? I mean it kind of confers legitimacy on arbitrary
territorial seizures if the US can do it, wouldn't you say?
Your pal,
CD
If the US losing to Vietnam and Afghanistan felt bad, imagine how bad
losing to Denmark will feel..
Trump better not try any of that nonsense with Canada or he'll have
King Charles to reckon with! :)
Bill Sloman
2025-03-30 13:59:56 UTC
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Well, I thought DT was joking about seizing Greenland, but it appears
he's serious! That's quite a bold move to say the least! Leaving aside
the right/wrong debate over such a move, does it not now give China a
free pass to seize the territory first - if it can act fast enough -
since the unthinkable has not only been thought, but spoken aloud as a
stated plan as well? I mean it kind of confers legitimacy on arbitrary
territorial seizures if the US can do it, wouldn't you say?
Your pal,
CD
If the US losing to Vietnam and Afghanistan felt bad, imagine how bad
losing to Denmark will feel..
Trump better not try any of that nonsense with Canada or he'll have
King Charles to reckon with! :)
George the third wasn't up to changing George Washington's mind, and
Charles the third is unlikely to do any better with Donald Trump.
George Washington had a mind that presumably could be changed - he did
seem to change his mind about chopping down that cherry tree when he
was a kid. Donald Trump's mind is rather more erratic.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
Klaus Kragelund
2025-03-30 20:22:57 UTC
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Well, I thought DT was joking about seizing Greenland, but it appears
he's serious! That's quite a bold move to say the least! Leaving aside
the right/wrong debate over such a move, does it not now give China a
free pass to seize the territory first - if it can act fast enough -
since the unthinkable has not only been thought, but spoken aloud as a
stated plan as well? I mean it kind of confers legitimacy on arbitrary
territorial seizures if the US can do it, wouldn't you say?
Your pal,
CD
If the US losing to Vietnam and Afghanistan felt bad, imagine how bad
losing to Denmark will feel..
Greenland is a part of NATO. So Trump will be losing to the rest of the
alliance, which he doesn't believe in anyway

A guy that thinks a tariff is something the country exporting pays, well
that says it all.
Cursitor Doom
2025-03-30 23:50:20 UTC
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Well, I thought DT was joking about seizing Greenland, but it appears
he's serious! That's quite a bold move to say the least! Leaving aside
the right/wrong debate over such a move, does it not now give China a
free pass to seize the territory first - if it can act fast enough -
since the unthinkable has not only been thought, but spoken aloud as a
stated plan as well? I mean it kind of confers legitimacy on arbitrary
territorial seizures if the US can do it, wouldn't you say?
Your pal,
CD
If the US losing to Vietnam and Afghanistan felt bad, imagine how bad
losing to Denmark will feel..
Greenland is a part of NATO. So Trump will be losing to the rest of the
alliance, which he doesn't believe in anyway
A guy that thinks a tariff is something the country exporting pays, well
that says it all.
Fair point. I was just wondering if anyone on this group might be
affected one way or the other by these tariffs. I don't believe I am,
at least not directly at any rate.
Phil Hobbs
2025-03-31 00:18:16 UTC
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On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 22:22:57 +0200, Klaus Kragelund
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Well, I thought DT was joking about seizing Greenland, but it appears
he's serious! That's quite a bold move to say the least! Leaving aside
the right/wrong debate over such a move, does it not now give China a
free pass to seize the territory first - if it can act fast enough -
since the unthinkable has not only been thought, but spoken aloud as a
stated plan as well? I mean it kind of confers legitimacy on arbitrary
territorial seizures if the US can do it, wouldn't you say?
Your pal,
CD
If the US losing to Vietnam and Afghanistan felt bad, imagine how bad
losing to Denmark will feel..
Greenland is a part of NATO. So Trump will be losing to the rest of the
alliance, which he doesn't believe in anyway
A guy that thinks a tariff is something the country exporting pays, well
that says it all.
Fair point. I was just wondering if anyone on this group might be
affected one way or the other by these tariffs. I don't believe I am,
at least not directly at any rate.
Who winds up paying what proportion of a tariff depends on price
elasticity, like any other cost.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
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Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC /
Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Bill Sloman
2025-03-31 04:51:57 UTC
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On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 22:22:57 +0200, Klaus Kragelund
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Well, I thought DT was joking about seizing Greenland, but it appears
he's serious! That's quite a bold move to say the least! Leaving aside
the right/wrong debate over such a move, does it not now give China a
free pass to seize the territory first - if it can act fast enough -
since the unthinkable has not only been thought, but spoken aloud as a
stated plan as well? I mean it kind of confers legitimacy on arbitrary
territorial seizures if the US can do it, wouldn't you say?
Your pal,
CD
If the US losing to Vietnam and Afghanistan felt bad, imagine how bad
losing to Denmark will feel..
Greenland is a part of NATO. So Trump will be losing to the rest of the
alliance, which he doesn't believe in anyway
A guy that thinks a tariff is something the country exporting pays, well
that says it all.
Fair point. I was just wondering if anyone on this group might be
affected one way or the other by these tariffs. I don't believe I am,
at least not directly at any rate.
Who winds up paying what proportion of a tariff depends on price
elasticity, like any other cost.
A tariff is paid when goods enter the country that has imposed the
tariff. Trump like them because he sees them as tax income that his
government can spend.

Economists don't like them because they take money out of the economy in
a way that makes it more expensive for consumers to buy specific items
that they might want or need.

Price elasticity is just the process of spreading the pain between the
exporter of the tariffed item, the importer and the eventual customer.

The rational argument for tariffs is to protect domestic sources against
international competition, and the counter argument is the economy of
scale - stuff gets produced at the lowest unit price when it is produced
in the largest possible volume. The usual rule of thumb is that
increasing production volume by a factor of ten halves the unit cost.

There are lots of specific cases where this doesn't work, but solar
cells are an example where it has done.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
Bill Sloman
2025-03-30 03:26:37 UTC
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Well, I thought DT was joking about seizing Greenland, but it appears
he's serious! That's quite a bold move to say the least! Leaving aside
the right/wrong debate over such a move, does it not now give China a
free pass to seize the territory first - if it can act fast enough -
since the unthinkable has not only been thought, but spoken aloud as a
stated plan as well? I mean it kind of confers legitimacy on arbitrary
territorial seizures if the US can do it, wouldn't you say?
Cursitor Doom does like his nonsense to be truly fatuous and Donald
Trump is sufficiently divorced from reality to deliver truly ludicrous
speculations.

I suppose if you take Putin's claims to the Ukraine seriously - and
Trump seems to - seizing Greenland might look like a plausible plan -
but military invasion do a lot of damage, and the people whose property
might get damaged will presumably bribe Trump into being a little more
civilised.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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