Phil Hobbs
2024-02-28 22:11:52 UTC
So I have this gig coming in to build charge amps for a French ion
accelerator lab.
The specs are for 1 kHz - 60 MHz, ideally less than 0.3 nV/sqrt(Hz)
noise, when hung off a detector using 250-mm diameter plates, spaced by
5 mm, connected with a ~80 mm long, teflon insulated cable.
Fun.
SPICE says that it can be done stably, with realistic strays, using
three Mini-Circuits pHEMTs in parallel and a BFU520A NPN cascode.
I have some test boards on order, courtesy of Simon, so in a couple of
weeks we'll see if it can actually be made to work.
With things like this, the first goal is to keep them from oscillating
someplace up in the gigahertz, and the second is to ake them do what you
want.
Parallelling devices with 12-GHz fmax is a good way to make them
oscillate. The trick in this instance seems to be source degeneration
using Murata's magical BLV03VK600SNLD ferrite bead.
Unlike the vast majority of beads, they're specified by the impedance at
**5 GHz** instead of 100 MHz--these ones are 60 ohm, but you can get 220
ohm ones too (BLV03VK221SNLG).
I spent a bit of time using similar tricks to do a lab amp similar to
our LA22 product(*), but with 200 MHz bandwidth instead of 20, and 0.3
nV/sqrt(Hz) noise instead of 1.1 nV. The spherical cows think it can do
all that with 1.8 ns edges and no overshoot. We'll see!
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The schematic is a bit busy, as it has to have a lot of strays put in to
get anything vaguely meaningful, and I had to scrunch it a bit
(connecting blocks using flags rather than wires in some cases) to make
it fit in the window. (The actual product schematic will probably be
fairly different, but we'll see.)
I have no idea how accurate the pHEMT model is, so I need to build some
test boards and find out. Fortunately we can get them monstrous cheap
from JLCPCB these days. (**)
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
(*) More details at <https://hobbs-eo.com/products/la-22-lab-amplifier>.
(**) JLCPCB raised a bunch of Series B money in late 2022, so maybe all
those cheap boards are being subsidized by VC money. Enjoy it while it
lasts!
accelerator lab.
The specs are for 1 kHz - 60 MHz, ideally less than 0.3 nV/sqrt(Hz)
noise, when hung off a detector using 250-mm diameter plates, spaced by
5 mm, connected with a ~80 mm long, teflon insulated cable.
Fun.
SPICE says that it can be done stably, with realistic strays, using
three Mini-Circuits pHEMTs in parallel and a BFU520A NPN cascode.
I have some test boards on order, courtesy of Simon, so in a couple of
weeks we'll see if it can actually be made to work.
With things like this, the first goal is to keep them from oscillating
someplace up in the gigahertz, and the second is to ake them do what you
want.
Parallelling devices with 12-GHz fmax is a good way to make them
oscillate. The trick in this instance seems to be source degeneration
using Murata's magical BLV03VK600SNLD ferrite bead.
Unlike the vast majority of beads, they're specified by the impedance at
**5 GHz** instead of 100 MHz--these ones are 60 ohm, but you can get 220
ohm ones too (BLV03VK221SNLG).
I spent a bit of time using similar tricks to do a lab amp similar to
our LA22 product(*), but with 200 MHz bandwidth instead of 20, and 0.3
nV/sqrt(Hz) noise instead of 1.1 nV. The spherical cows think it can do
all that with 1.8 ns edges and no overshoot. We'll see!
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The schematic is a bit busy, as it has to have a lot of strays put in to
get anything vaguely meaningful, and I had to scrunch it a bit
(connecting blocks using flags rather than wires in some cases) to make
it fit in the window. (The actual product schematic will probably be
fairly different, but we'll see.)
I have no idea how accurate the pHEMT model is, so I need to build some
test boards and find out. Fortunately we can get them monstrous cheap
from JLCPCB these days. (**)
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
(*) More details at <https://hobbs-eo.com/products/la-22-lab-amplifier>.
(**) JLCPCB raised a bunch of Series B money in late 2022, so maybe all
those cheap boards are being subsidized by VC money. Enjoy it while it
lasts!
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com