Google Groups On 10 Day Countdown

[Fred Bloggs]

They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour. That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

Post by Fred Bloggs
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour. That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

nah, google gives up on usenet because it doesn't make them any money

[darius]

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[Cursitor Doom]

On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 16:51:52 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen

Post by Lasse Langwadt Christensen

Post by Fred Bloggs
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour. That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

nah, google gives up on usenet because it doesn't make them any money

Sorry if this has been asked before, but what's to happen to their
archives of the groups? Will they be preserved and made available?

[darius]

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[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 16:51:52 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen

Post by Lasse Langwadt Christensen

Post by Fred Bloggs
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour. That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

nah, google gives up on usenet because it doesn't make them any money

Sorry if this has been asked before, but what's to happen to their
archives of the groups? Will they be preserved and made available?

the message says view and search will be the same, just no new content added

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[Anthony William Sloman]

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 16:51:52 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen

Post by Lasse Langwadt Christensen

Post by Fred Bloggs
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour. That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

nah, google gives up on usenet because it doesn't make them any money

Sorry if this has been asked before, but what's to happen to their
archives of the groups? Will they be preserved and made available?

The noticed says that they will.

[darius]

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[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Mon, 12 Feb 2024 09:17:29 -0800) it happened John Larkin

On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 08:42:57 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs

'A market anomaly in a financial market is predictability that seems to be inconsistent with (typically risk-based) theories of
asset prices.'
People have made billions exploiting this phenomenon. AI will end that kind of opportunity in the near future.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_anomaly

"Academics have not reached a consensus" is hilarious. It should be
obvious to those academics that none of their theories about markets,
anything past Econ 101, can't work. Well, none will admit it.
AI can't pick winners either.
"If you're an economist, how come you're not rich?"

I have read George Soros book 'The Alchemy of finance',
Politics.

That was after I did a training in financial markets and option trade here
and wondered why the teachers were not very rich.
https://www.amazon.com/Alchemy-Finance-George-Soros/dp/0471445495
Long ago (year 1998 or so):
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/financial/index.html
later got an email from some students if they could use my code as starting point..
OK,
well after that 'puters took control...
I am sure you can AI make predictions after training it on past events,
basically what I do.
But read Soros's book.

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[Fred Bloggs]

Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Mon, 12 Feb 2024 09:17:29 -0800) it happened John Larkin

On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 08:42:57 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs

'A market anomaly in a financial market is predictability that seems to be inconsistent with (typically risk-based) theories of
asset prices.'
People have made billions exploiting this phenomenon. AI will end that kind of opportunity in the near future.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_anomaly

"Academics have not reached a consensus" is hilarious. It should be
obvious to those academics that none of their theories about markets,
anything past Econ 101, can't work. Well, none will admit it.
AI can't pick winners either.
"If you're an economist, how come you're not rich?"

I have read George Soros book 'The Alchemy of finance',
Politics.
That was after I did a training in financial markets and option trade here
and wondered why the teachers were not very rich.
https://www.amazon.com/Alchemy-Finance-George-Soros/dp/0471445495
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/financial/index.html
later got an email from some students if they could use my code as starting point..
OK,
well after that 'puters took control...
I am sure you can AI make predictions after training it on past events,
basically what I do.
But read Soros's book.

You posted this in the wrong thread. How did you manage that?

[john larkin]

On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 05:59:18 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs

Post by Fred Bloggs

Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Mon, 12 Feb 2024 09:17:29 -0800) it happened John Larkin

On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 08:42:57 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs

'A market anomaly in a financial market is predictability that seems to be inconsistent with (typically risk-based) theories of
asset prices.'
People have made billions exploiting this phenomenon. AI will end that kind of opportunity in the near future.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_anomaly

"Academics have not reached a consensus" is hilarious. It should be
obvious to those academics that none of their theories about markets,
anything past Econ 101, can't work. Well, none will admit it.
AI can't pick winners either.
"If you're an economist, how come you're not rich?"

I have read George Soros book 'The Alchemy of finance',
Politics.
That was after I did a training in financial markets and option trade here
and wondered why the teachers were not very rich.
https://www.amazon.com/Alchemy-Finance-George-Soros/dp/0471445495
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/financial/index.html
later got an email from some students if they could use my code as starting point..
OK,
well after that 'puters took control...
I am sure you can AI make predictions after training it on past events,
basically what I do.
But read Soros's book.

You posted this in the wrong thread. How did you manage that?

He posted a followup to my post, in another thread.

Usenet occasionally tangles threads.

Don't be automatically obnoxious.

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[Bill Sloman]

Post by john larkin
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 05:59:18 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs

Post by Fred Bloggs

Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Mon, 12 Feb 2024 09:17:29 -0800) it happened John Larkin

On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 08:42:57 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs

'A market anomaly in a financial market is predictability that seems to be inconsistent with (typically risk-based) theories of
asset prices.'
People have made billions exploiting this phenomenon. AI will end that kind of opportunity in the near future.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_anomaly

"Academics have not reached a consensus" is hilarious. It should be
obvious to those academics that none of their theories about markets,
anything past Econ 101, can't work. Well, none will admit it.

It is obvious to John Larkin - as obvious as the non-existent defects in
the science behind global warming - which both reflect his unfortunately
susceptibility to self-interested right-wing propaganda.

Post by john larkin

Post by Fred Bloggs

Post by Jan Panteltje

AI can't pick winners either.
"If you're an economist, how come you're not rich?"

I have read George Soros book 'The Alchemy of finance',
Politics.
That was after I did a training in financial markets and option trade here
and wondered why the teachers were not very rich.
https://www.amazon.com/Alchemy-Finance-George-Soros/dp/0471445495
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/financial/index.html
later got an email from some students if they could use my code as starting point..
OK,
well after that 'puters took control...
I am sure you can AI make predictions after training it on past events,
basically what I do.
But read Soros's book.

You posted this in the wrong thread. How did you manage that?

He posted a followup to my post, in another thread.
Usenet occasionally tangles threads.
Don't be automatically obnoxious.

Leave that to John Larkin - it is his specialist subject.

[darius]

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[Klaus Kragelund]

Post by Fred Bloggs
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour. That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

What would be a good server to use going ahead?

[Fred Bloggs]

Post by Klaus Kragelund

Post by Fred Bloggs
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour. That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

What would be a good server to use going ahead?

Today is the last day, so you need to find one soon.

[Carl Ijames]

Post by Klaus Kragelund

Post by Fred Bloggs
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour. That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

What would be a good server to use going ahead?

All the free providers seem gone, but I'm reasonably happy with www.newshosting.com Works fine with thunderbird, but you have to use their free newsreading program if you want more search capability than thunderbird provides. Searches are definitely oriented towards binaries but text groups work ok.

--
Regards,
Carl

[Dean]

Post by Carl Ijames

Post by Klaus Kragelund

Post by Fred Bloggs
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour. That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

What would be a good server to use going ahead?

All the free providers seem gone, but I'm reasonably happy with www.newshosting.com Works fine with thunderbird, but you have to use their free newsreading program if you want more search capability than thunderbird provides. Searches are definitely oriented towards binaries but text groups work ok.
--
Regards,
Carl

Are aioe. or. eternal-september still going?

[Carl Ijames]

Post by Dean

Post by Carl Ijames

Post by Klaus Kragelund

Post by Fred Bloggs
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour. That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

What would be a good server to use going ahead?

All the free providers seem gone, but I'm reasonably happy with www.newshosting.com Works fine with thunderbird, but you have to use their free newsreading program if you want more search capability than thunderbird provides. Searches are definitely oriented towards binaries but text groups work ok.
--
Regards,
Carl

Are aioe. or. eternal-september still going?

I get can't find site for aioe, but eternal-september.org looks like it's still there. I should have said that I wanted binary access and that's not been free for a long time, sigh . Sorry.

[darius]

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[Klaus Kragelund]

Post by Carl Ijames

Post by Klaus Kragelund

Post by Fred Bloggs
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour. That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

What would be a good server to use going ahead?

All the free providers seem gone, but I'm reasonably happy with www.newshosting.com Works fine with thunderbird, but you have to use their free newsreading program if you want more search capability than thunderbird provides. Searches are definitely oriented towards binaries but text groups work ok.

great, thanks for the suggestion

[bitrex]

Post by Carl Ijames

Post by Klaus Kragelund

Post by Fred Bloggs
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour. That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

What would be a good server to use going ahead?

All the free providers seem gone, but I'm reasonably happy with www.newshosting.com Works fine with thunderbird, but you have to use their free newsreading program if you want more search capability than thunderbird provides. Searches are definitely oriented towards binaries but text groups work ok.
--
Regards,
Carl

frugalusenet.com is very basic but the price is very reasonable, has
worked well for me for many years!

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[Carl]

Post by Carl Ijames

Post by Klaus Kragelund

Post by Fred Bloggs
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour.
That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the
reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

What would be a good server to use going ahead?

All the free providers seem gone, but I'm reasonably happy with
www.newshosting.com Works fine with thunderbird, but you have to use
their free newsreading program if you want more search capability than
thunderbird provides. Searches are definitely oriented towards
binaries but text groups work ok.
--
Regards,
Carl

https://www.eternal-september.org is free - he has a guilt-ware paypal
button that I've used  mind you...
John :-#)#

[May be a repeat, didn't see it come through yesterday.]
I get can't find site for aioe, but eternal-september is still there. I
should have said that I wanted binary access and that's not been free
for a long time, sigh 🙂. Sorry.

[Phil Hobbs]

Post by Carl

Post by Carl Ijames

Post by Klaus Kragelund

Post by Fred Bloggs
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour.
That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the
reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

What would be a good server to use going ahead?

All the free providers seem gone, but I'm reasonably happy with
www.newshosting.com Works fine with thunderbird, but you have to use
their free newsreading program if you want more search capability than
thunderbird provides. Searches are definitely oriented towards
binaries but text groups work ok.
--
Regards,
Carl

https://www.eternal-september.org is free - he has a guilt-ware paypal
button that I've used  mind you...
John :-#)#

[May be a repeat, didn't see it come through yesterday.]
I get can't find site for aioe, but eternal-september is still there. I
should have said that I wanted binary access and that's not been free
for a long time, sigh 🙂. Sorry.

Astraweb is pretty nearly free, and has binaries.

Cheers

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 15:50:10 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs

Post by Phil Hobbs

Post by Carl

Post by Carl Ijames

Post by Klaus Kragelund

Post by Fred Bloggs
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour.
That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the
reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

What would be a good server to use going ahead?

All the free providers seem gone, but I'm reasonably happy with
www.newshosting.com Works fine with thunderbird, but you have to use
their free newsreading program if you want more search capability than
thunderbird provides. Searches are definitely oriented towards
binaries but text groups work ok.
--
Regards,
Carl

https://www.eternal-september.org is free - he has a guilt-ware paypal
button that I've used  mind you...
John :-#)#

[May be a repeat, didn't see it come through yesterday.]
I get can't find site for aioe, but eternal-september is still there. I
should have said that I wanted binary access and that's not been free
for a long time, sigh ?. Sorry.

Astraweb is pretty nearly free, and has binaries.
Cheers

I've been using Supernews for ages, but they seem flakey lately. They
seem to be down on weekends and I see a lot of followups to posts that
I never see, including my own.

I guess I'll try eternal-september.

[darius]

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[Jeff Liebermann]

Post by John Larkin
I've been using Supernews for ages, but they seem flakey lately. They
seem to be down on weekends and I see a lot of followups to posts that
I never see, including my own.
I guess I'll try eternal-september.

I've been having similar problems with Supernews. I've been using
Supernews almost since they were founded about 30 years ago. My
requirements are minimal (about 12 newsgroups) and no binary groups.
Service has been generally good and reliable until about 3 months ago,
when things began to deteriorate.

In the past, SED was collecting large amount of spam that I had to
remove manually. Other groups with less traffic had less spam. A
dialog with tech support was mostly useless boiler plate and promise
to fix things I never mentioned. I gave up and eventually the spam
problem was reduced, but not eliminated.

A few days ago, I noticed that there were a growing number of missing
messages with followups. The missing messages were consistently on
Google Groups, but not on the Supernews servers. Several of my own
postings failed to appear on Supernews, but did appear on Google
Groups. I sent another support request, which resulted in another
boiler plate reply which mentioned that they are working on the spam
problem, which was not was not my complaint. I suspect someone had
looked up my previous support messages and intentionally ignored my
complaint.

Joerg posted a recommendation to try individual.net. 10 euros per
year and they accept Paypal payment. I tested it for a day. About
200 formerly missing messages magically arrived. My conclusion is
that the missing messages problem is likely within the Supernews
system. With only 1 weeks of experience with individual.net, I don't
think I'm qualified for offering a recommendation quite yet. As long
as Google maintains the Google Groups archives, which go back to about
1984, the >1000 day retention at individual.net is more than adequate:
<https://news.individual.net/hierarchies.php>

Checking traceroute to news.individual.net from California:
<https://traceroute-online.com>
my traffic goes from the US west coast to:
New York -> Sweden -> Netherlands -> Germany
About 160 msec latency.

[Liz Tuddenham]

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by John Larkin
I've been using Supernews for ages, but they seem flakey lately. They
seem to be down on weekends and I see a lot of followups to posts that
I never see, including my own.
I guess I'll try eternal-september.

I've been having similar problems with Supernews. I've been using
Supernews almost since they were founded about 30 years ago. My
requirements are minimal (about 12 newsgroups) and no binary groups.
Service has been generally good and reliable until about 3 months ago,
when things began to deteriorate.
In the past, SED was collecting large amount of spam that I had to
remove manually. Other groups with less traffic had less spam. A
dialog with tech support was mostly useless boiler plate and promise
to fix things I never mentioned. I gave up and eventually the spam
problem was reduced, but not eliminated.
A few days ago, I noticed that there were a growing number of missing
messages with followups. The missing messages were consistently on
Google Groups, but not on the Supernews servers. Several of my own
postings failed to appear on Supernews, but did appear on Google
Groups. I sent another support request, which resulted in another
boiler plate reply which mentioned that they are working on the spam
problem, which was not was not my complaint. I suspect someone had
looked up my previous support messages and intentionally ignored my
complaint.
Joerg posted a recommendation to try individual.net. 10 euros per
year and they accept Paypal payment. I tested it for a day. About
200 formerly missing messages magically arrived. My conclusion is
that the missing messages problem is likely within the Supernews
system. With only 1 weeks of experience with individual.net, I don't
think I'm qualified for offering a recommendation quite yet. As long
as Google maintains the Google Groups archives, which go back to about
<https://news.individual.net/hierarchies.php>
<https://traceroute-online.com>
New York -> Sweden -> Netherlands -> Germany
About 160 msec latency.

I've been with <news.individual.net> over 20 years and always found them
excellent. The MacSOUP newsreader has a good killfile system that
removes most of the spam and had an excellent 'London Underground' map
display of posts, so you know who is replying to whom.

[darius]

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[darius]

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[Carl]

Post by Phil Hobbs

Post by Carl

Post by Carl Ijames

Post by Klaus Kragelund

Post by Fred Bloggs
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour.
That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the
reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

What would be a good server to use going ahead?

All the free providers seem gone, but I'm reasonably happy with
www.newshosting.com Works fine with thunderbird, but you have to use
their free newsreading program if you want more search capability than
thunderbird provides. Searches are definitely oriented towards
binaries but text groups work ok.
--
Regards,
Carl

https://www.eternal-september.org is free - he has a guilt-ware paypal
button that I've used  mind you...
John :-#)#

[May be a repeat, didn't see it come through yesterday.]
I get can't find site for aioe, but eternal-september is still there. I
should have said that I wanted binary access and that's not been free
for a long time, sigh 🙂. Sorry.

Astraweb is pretty nearly free, and has binaries.
Cheers

Astraweb looks good, and is about 40% cheaper than newshosting ($8 vs
$13/month). However, using newshosting's free newsreader you can do
searches of their entire archive. I don't see any way to do that with
astraweb with thunderbird. With thunderbird you have to download all
the headers as far back as you want to search, and then search, and it
slows to a crawl handling more than say 20,000 headers at a time. Then
you have to give up a lot of disk space to keep those headers around, or
spend many minutes deleting them just so you can download them the next
time you want to do a search 🙂. I used to use newsguy which was very
good and cheap, but they went under several years ago. At that time
newshosting was the best I could find, but if I'd seen astraweb it would
have been a hard choice. Yeah, I know I could use google groups to do
searches but my google-fu is very weak there and I never seem to get
anything useful.

[darius]

The idiot Carl <***@YYverizon.net> persisting in being an Off-topic troll...
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[Phil Hobbs]

Post by Carl

Post by Phil Hobbs

Post by Carl

Post by Carl Ijames

Post by Klaus Kragelund

Post by Fred Bloggs
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour.
That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the
reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

What would be a good server to use going ahead?

All the free providers seem gone, but I'm reasonably happy with
www.newshosting.com Works fine with thunderbird, but you have to use
their free newsreading program if you want more search capability than
thunderbird provides. Searches are definitely oriented towards
binaries but text groups work ok.
--
Regards,
Carl

https://www.eternal-september.org is free - he has a guilt-ware paypal
button that I've used  mind you...
John :-#)#

[May be a repeat, didn't see it come through yesterday.]
I get can't find site for aioe, but eternal-september is still there.  I
should have said that I wanted binary access and that's not been free
for a long time, sigh 🙂.  Sorry.

Astraweb is pretty nearly free, and has binaries.
Cheers

Astraweb looks good, and is about 40% cheaper than newshosting ($8 vs
$13/month).  However, using newshosting's free newsreader you can do
searches of their entire archive.  I don't see any way to do that with
astraweb with thunderbird.  With thunderbird you have to download all
the headers as far back as you want to search, and then search, and it
slows to a crawl handling more than say 20,000 headers at a time.  Then
you have to give up a lot of disk space to keep those headers around, or
spend many minutes deleting them just so you can download them the next
time you want to do a search 🙂.  I used to use newsguy which was very
good and cheap, but they went under several years ago.  At that time
newshosting was the best I could find, but if I'd seen astraweb it would
have been a hard choice.  Yeah, I know I could use google groups to do
searches but my google-fu is very weak there and I never seem to get
anything useful.

Their nonrecurring plans ($x per GB) are pretty cheap. I paid them $40
or so, once, for enough downloaded data to last me till about 2550 AD.

I can't actually post on Astraweb from Seamonkey for some reason.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

[darius]

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[Jasen Betts]

Post by Carl

Post by Phil Hobbs

Post by Carl

Post by Carl Ijames

Post by Klaus Kragelund

Post by Fred Bloggs
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour.
That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the
reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

What would be a good server to use going ahead?

All the free providers seem gone, but I'm reasonably happy with
www.newshosting.com Works fine with thunderbird, but you have to use
their free newsreading program if you want more search capability than
thunderbird provides. Searches are definitely oriented towards
binaries but text groups work ok.
--
Regards,
Carl

https://www.eternal-september.org is free - he has a guilt-ware paypal
button that I've used  mind you...
John :-#)#

[May be a repeat, didn't see it come through yesterday.]
I get can't find site for aioe, but eternal-september is still there. I
should have said that I wanted binary access and that's not been free
for a long time, sigh 🙂. Sorry.

Astraweb is pretty nearly free, and has binaries.
Cheers

Astraweb looks good, and is about 40% cheaper than newshosting ($8 vs
$13/month).

If you buy a block data plan data it's even cheaper.

[a a]

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[darius]

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[Klaus Kragelund]

Post by Fred Bloggs
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour. That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

Who gets to have the last word on Google SED? Larkin or Slowman?

[Anthony William Sloman]

Post by Klaus Kragelund

Post by Fred Bloggs
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour. That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

Who gets to have the last word on Google SED? Larkin or Slowman?

Somebody who can get names right? Darius the Dumb does post more than either of us, and he seems to cut-and-paste names.

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 01:47:35 -0800 (PST), Klaus Kragelund

Post by Klaus Kragelund

Post by Fred Bloggs
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour. That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

Who gets to have the last word on Google SED? Larkin or Slowman?

Sensible division of labor: I can do the last electronics post, and
Sloman can do the last coarse insult.

[Anthony William Sloman]

Post by John Larkin
On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 01:47:35 -0800 (PST), Klaus Kragelund

Post by Klaus Kragelund

Post by Fred Bloggs
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour. That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.

Who gets to have the last word on Google SED? Larkin or Slowman?

Sensible division of labor: I can do the last electronics post, and
Sloman can do the last coarse insult.

Of course that's a pretty coarse insult, and Darius the Dumb has already called you an arsehole in the thread and and the rest of us idiots, so you've probably picked the wrong contenders. But I am looking forward to an "electronics" post from you - you mostly post snide suggestions that other people should post something about electronics (so that you can pirate it?).

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