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Cursitor Doom
2024-09-08 23:37:50 UTC
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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cant-take-it-anymore-residents-
springfield-ohio-beg-help-after-20000-haitians-overwhelm

A second Trump presidency can't come soon enough!
Bill Sloman
2024-09-09 04:32:49 UTC
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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cant-take-it-anymore-residents-
springfield-ohio-beg-help-after-20000-haitians-overwhelm
A second Trump presidency can't come soon enough!
Zerohedge exists to post fatuous right-wing political propaganda, to
which Cursitor Doom is addicted - it does have to be truly fatuous to
whet his appetite.

Donald Trump generates even more of this fatuous nonsense, so Cursitor
Doom wants him re-elected, which is rather like burning down your house
to toast your marshmallows (or roast your pork, to recycle an even older
myth).
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
john larkin
2024-09-09 19:28:01 UTC
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Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Cursitor Doom
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cant-take-it-anymore-residents-
springfield-ohio-beg-help-after-20000-haitians-overwhelm
A second Trump presidency can't come soon enough!
Zerohedge exists to post fatuous right-wing political propaganda, to
which Cursitor Doom is addicted - it does have to be truly fatuous to
whet his appetite.
NPR reports basically the same story. The roughly 20K Haitian
immigrants are real.
Joe Gwinn
2024-09-09 20:40:16 UTC
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Post by john larkin
Post by Bill Sloman
< https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cant-take-it-anymore-residents-springfield-ohio-beg-help-after-20000-haitians-overwhelm>
A second Trump presidency can't come soon enough!
Zerohedge exists to post fatuous right-wing political propaganda, to
which Cursitor Doom is addicted - it does have to be truly fatuous to
whet his appetite.
NPR reports basically the same story. The roughly 20K Haitian
immigrants are real.
Yes.

.<https://www.foxnews.com/video/6357715590112>

.<https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/thousands-of-haitian-immigrants-now-in-springfield-5-takeaways-from-our-reporting/QQFDZR6JAVCBNC6TGZGAEKE2JU/>

Basically the mayor of Springfield said that these costs could cause
the city of Springfield to fail and go bankrupt, which certainly makes
sense: A city of ~60,000 people is suddenly saddled with 20,000
indigent charity cases. And Springfield was poor to begin with -
classic rust belt story.

.<https://www.mass.gov/news/governor-healey-declares-state-of-emergency-calls-for-support-for-newly-arriving-migrant-families>

Joe Gwinn
john larkin
2024-09-09 21:25:10 UTC
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Post by Joe Gwinn
Post by john larkin
Post by Bill Sloman
< https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cant-take-it-anymore-residents-springfield-ohio-beg-help-after-20000-haitians-overwhelm>
A second Trump presidency can't come soon enough!
Zerohedge exists to post fatuous right-wing political propaganda, to
which Cursitor Doom is addicted - it does have to be truly fatuous to
whet his appetite.
NPR reports basically the same story. The roughly 20K Haitian
immigrants are real.
Yes.
.<https://www.foxnews.com/video/6357715590112>
.<https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/thousands-of-haitian-immigrants-now-in-springfield-5-takeaways-from-our-reporting/QQFDZR6JAVCBNC6TGZGAEKE2JU/>
Basically the mayor of Springfield said that these costs could cause
the city of Springfield to fail and go bankrupt, which certainly makes
sense: A city of ~60,000 people is suddenly saddled with 20,000
indigent charity cases. And Springfield was poor to begin with -
classic rust belt story.
.<https://www.mass.gov/news/governor-healey-declares-state-of-emergency-calls-for-support-for-newly-arriving-migrant-families>
Joe Gwinn
Immigration should be controlled. Immigrants should be individually
sponsored and helped and dispersed.

Sloman doesn't have to read or think. If it's a link from Zero Hedge
or Brietbart or WattsUp, he knows it's false. That saves his valuable
time.
Joe Gwinn
2024-09-09 21:37:49 UTC
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Post by Joe Gwinn
Post by john larkin
Post by Bill Sloman
< https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cant-take-it-anymore-residents-springfield-ohio-beg-help-after-20000-haitians-overwhelm>
A second Trump presidency can't come soon enough!
Zerohedge exists to post fatuous right-wing political propaganda, to
which Cursitor Doom is addicted - it does have to be truly fatuous to
whet his appetite.
NPR reports basically the same story. The roughly 20K Haitian
immigrants are real.
Yes.
.<https://www.foxnews.com/video/6357715590112>
.<https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/thousands-of-haitian-immigrants-now-in-springfield-5-takeaways-from-our-reporting/QQFDZR6JAVCBNC6TGZGAEKE2JU/>
Basically the mayor of Springfield said that these costs could cause
the city of Springfield to fail and go bankrupt, which certainly makes
sense: A city of ~60,000 people is suddenly saddled with 20,000
indigent charity cases. And Springfield was poor to begin with -
classic rust belt story.
.<https://www.mass.gov/news/governor-healey-declares-state-of-emergency-calls-for-support-for-newly-arriving-migrant-families>
Joe Gwinn
Immigration should be controlled. Immigrants should be individually
sponsored and helped and dispersed.
Sloman doesn't have to read or think. If it's a link from Zero Hedge
or Brietbart or WattsUp, he knows it's false. That saves his valuable
time.
Why respond to him at all? It's pointless.

Joe Gwinn
john larkin
2024-09-09 21:44:58 UTC
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Post by john larkin
Post by Joe Gwinn
Post by john larkin
Post by Bill Sloman
< https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cant-take-it-anymore-residents-springfield-ohio-beg-help-after-20000-haitians-overwhelm>
A second Trump presidency can't come soon enough!
Zerohedge exists to post fatuous right-wing political propaganda, to
which Cursitor Doom is addicted - it does have to be truly fatuous to
whet his appetite.
NPR reports basically the same story. The roughly 20K Haitian
immigrants are real.
Yes.
.<https://www.foxnews.com/video/6357715590112>
.<https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/thousands-of-haitian-immigrants-now-in-springfield-5-takeaways-from-our-reporting/QQFDZR6JAVCBNC6TGZGAEKE2JU/>
Basically the mayor of Springfield said that these costs could cause
the city of Springfield to fail and go bankrupt, which certainly makes
sense: A city of ~60,000 people is suddenly saddled with 20,000
indigent charity cases. And Springfield was poor to begin with -
classic rust belt story.
.<https://www.mass.gov/news/governor-healey-declares-state-of-emergency-calls-for-support-for-newly-arriving-migrant-families>
Joe Gwinn
Immigration should be controlled. Immigrants should be individually
sponsored and helped and dispersed.
Sloman doesn't have to read or think. If it's a link from Zero Hedge
or Brietbart or WattsUp, he knows it's false. That saves his valuable
time.
Why respond to him at all? It's pointless.
Joe Gwinn
If he talks about something that's arguably on topic, it helps keep
the group alive. But since he doesn't, I guess I'll go back to
ignoring him for a couple of years.
Bill Sloman
2024-09-10 05:05:34 UTC
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Post by Joe Gwinn
Post by john larkin
Post by Joe Gwinn
Post by john larkin
Post by Bill Sloman
< https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cant-take-it-anymore-residents-springfield-ohio-beg-help-after-20000-haitians-overwhelm>
A second Trump presidency can't come soon enough!
Zerohedge exists to post fatuous right-wing political propaganda, to
which Cursitor Doom is addicted - it does have to be truly fatuous to
whet his appetite.
NPR reports basically the same story. The roughly 20K Haitian
immigrants are real.
Yes.
.<https://www.foxnews.com/video/6357715590112>
.<https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/thousands-of-haitian-immigrants-now-in-springfield-5-takeaways-from-our-reporting/QQFDZR6JAVCBNC6TGZGAEKE2JU/>
Basically the mayor of Springfield said that these costs could cause
the city of Springfield to fail and go bankrupt, which certainly makes
sense: A city of ~60,000 people is suddenly saddled with 20,000
indigent charity cases. And Springfield was poor to begin with -
classic rust belt story.
.<https://www.mass.gov/news/governor-healey-declares-state-of-emergency-calls-for-support-for-newly-arriving-migrant-families>
Joe Gwinn
Immigration should be controlled. Immigrants should be individually
sponsored and helped and dispersed.
Sloman doesn't have to read or think. If it's a link from Zero Hedge
or Brietbart or WattsUp, he knows it's false. That saves his valuable
time.
Why respond to him at all? It's pointless.
Particularly when the responses are a feeble as the one John Larkin
produces.
Post by john larkin
If he talks about something that's arguably on topic, it helps keep
the group alive. But since he doesn't, I guess I'll go back to
ignoring him for a couple of years.
If only you would.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
Bill Sloman
2024-09-10 05:02:30 UTC
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Post by john larkin
Post by Joe Gwinn
Post by john larkin
Post by Bill Sloman
< https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cant-take-it-anymore-residents-springfield-ohio-beg-help-after-20000-haitians-overwhelm>
A second Trump presidency can't come soon enough!
Zerohedge exists to post fatuous right-wing political propaganda, to
which Cursitor Doom is addicted - it does have to be truly fatuous to
whet his appetite.
NPR reports basically the same story. The roughly 20K Haitian
immigrants are real.
Yes.
.<https://www.foxnews.com/video/6357715590112>
.<https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/thousands-of-haitian-immigrants-now-in-springfield-5-takeaways-from-our-reporting/QQFDZR6JAVCBNC6TGZGAEKE2JU/>
Basically the mayor of Springfield said that these costs could cause
the city of Springfield to fail and go bankrupt, which certainly makes
sense: A city of ~60,000 people is suddenly saddled with 20,000
indigent charity cases. And Springfield was poor to begin with -
classic rust belt story.
.<https://www.mass.gov/news/governor-healey-declares-state-of-emergency-calls-for-support-for-newly-arriving-migrant-families>
Joe Gwinn
Immigration should be controlled. Immigrants should be individually
sponsored and helped and dispersed.
Sloman doesn't have to read or think. If it's a link from Zero Hedge
or Brietbart or WattsUp, he knows it's false. That saves his valuable
time.
Zero Hedge didn't spell out why 20,000 Haitian immigrants should
suddenly show up in Springfield, Mass.

The likeliest explanation is that the republican governor of some
Southern state put them on busses to ship them up there to get them out
of his hair.

It's not per se a problem with the national immigration policy, but
rather a problem with looking after illegal immigrants who had been
imported as seasonal labour and weren't shipped home at the end of the
harvesting season by the people who imported them.

The US has always relied on illegal immigrants for cheap labour - Donald
Trump relied on them to clean his hotels - but they become a "dangerous
burden on society" when some right wing politician wants to play the
"racial purity" card. John Larkin is a gullible idiot so he reliably
falls for that kind of propaganda.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
legg
2024-09-10 14:55:24 UTC
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Post by john larkin
Post by Joe Gwinn
Post by john larkin
Post by Bill Sloman
< https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cant-take-it-anymore-residents-springfield-ohio-beg-help-after-20000-haitians-overwhelm>
A second Trump presidency can't come soon enough!
Zerohedge exists to post fatuous right-wing political propaganda, to
which Cursitor Doom is addicted - it does have to be truly fatuous to
whet his appetite.
NPR reports basically the same story. The roughly 20K Haitian
immigrants are real.
Yes.
.<https://www.foxnews.com/video/6357715590112>
.<https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/thousands-of-haitian-immigrants-now-in-springfield-5-takeaways-from-our-reporting/QQFDZR6JAVCBNC6TGZGAEKE2JU/>
Basically the mayor of Springfield said that these costs could cause
the city of Springfield to fail and go bankrupt, which certainly makes
sense: A city of ~60,000 people is suddenly saddled with 20,000
indigent charity cases. And Springfield was poor to begin with -
classic rust belt story.
.<https://www.mass.gov/news/governor-healey-declares-state-of-emergency-calls-for-support-for-newly-arriving-migrant-families>
Joe Gwinn
Immigration should be controlled. Immigrants should be individually
sponsored and helped and dispersed.
Sloman doesn't have to read or think. If it's a link from Zero Hedge
or Brietbart or WattsUp, he knows it's false. That saves his valuable
time.
Canadians seem to have the same problem -
differentiating between immigrants and refugees.

Maybe they don't make this distiction in the States,
though I'd have thought the term 'temporarily protected'
was a no-brainer.

RL

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