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Heating for fusion, Why toast plasma when you can microwave it?
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Jan Panteltje
2024-08-07 05:27:41 UTC
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Heating for fusion: Why toast plasma when you can microwave it!
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131216.htm
Carving a new path forward for compact fusion vessels
Date:
August 6, 2024
Source:
DOE/Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory
Summary:
Can plasma be sufficiently heated inside a tokamak using only microwaves?
New research suggests it can! Eliminating the central ohmic heating coil
normally used in tokamaks will free up much-needed space for a more compact,
efficient spherical tokamak.

Bye bye ITER and that otehr fusion attempt mayonaise thing
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131357.htm
Researchers dig deeper into stability challenges of nuclear fusion -- with mayonnaise

Now all I am waiting for is a 10 year old kid doing a better than break even fusion experiment in its parents kitchen...
Bill Sloman
2024-08-08 07:13:36 UTC
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Post by Jan Panteltje
Heating for fusion: Why toast plasma when you can microwave it!
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131216.htm
Carving a new path forward for compact fusion vessels
August 6, 2024
DOE/Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory
Can plasma be sufficiently heated inside a tokamak using only microwaves?
New research suggests it can! Eliminating the central ohmic heating coil
normally used in tokamaks will free up much-needed space for a more compact,
efficient spherical tokamak.
Not so much carving a new path as looking for one. Maybe be gyrotrons
can heat the plasma enough, but planing to do experiment which can test
whether they can isn't exactly carving a new path - more just looking at
a possible new path.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Bye bye ITER and that otehr fusion attempt mayonaise thing
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131357.htm
Researchers dig deeper into stability challenges of nuclear fusion -- with mayonnaise
Now all I am waiting for is a 10 year old kid doing a better than break even fusion experiment in its parents kitchen...
You may have to wait a long time. Mayonaise may exhibit Rayleigh-Taylor
instability, but the lessons it might be able to impart would be
difficult to translate into totomak design.
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Jan Panteltje
2024-08-08 10:23:45 UTC
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On a sunny day (Thu, 8 Aug 2024 17:13:36 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
Heating for fusion: Why toast plasma when you can microwave it!
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131216.htm
Carving a new path forward for compact fusion vessels
August 6, 2024
DOE/Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory
Can plasma be sufficiently heated inside a tokamak using only microwaves?
New research suggests it can! Eliminating the central ohmic heating coil
normally used in tokamaks will free up much-needed space for a more compact,
efficient spherical tokamak.
Not so much carving a new path as looking for one. Maybe be gyrotrons
can heat the plasma enough, but planing to do experiment which can test
whether they can isn't exactly carving a new path - more just looking at
a possible new path.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Bye bye ITER and that otehr fusion attempt mayonaise thing
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131357.htm
Researchers dig deeper into stability challenges of nuclear fusion -- with mayonnaise
Now all I am waiting for is a 10 year old kid doing a better than break even fusion experiment in its parents kitchen...
You may have to wait a long time. Mayonaise may exhibit Rayleigh-Taylor
instability, but the lessons it might be able to impart would be
difficult to translate into totomak design.
I like that Farnsworth fusor thing
They mention the grid gets too hot as a problem.
Why not use a water filled pipe as grid,
heat the water to steam, drive a small steam engine
that drives a generator that drives a HV converter,
simple electronics, there is a table top experiment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor
so many simple ways to improve that setup!
Bill Sloman
2024-08-08 16:18:17 UTC
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Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Thu, 8 Aug 2024 17:13:36 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
Heating for fusion: Why toast plasma when you can microwave it!
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131216.htm
Carving a new path forward for compact fusion vessels
August 6, 2024
DOE/Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory
Can plasma be sufficiently heated inside a tokamak using only microwaves?
New research suggests it can! Eliminating the central ohmic heating coil
normally used in tokamaks will free up much-needed space for a more compact,
efficient spherical tokamak.
Not so much carving a new path as looking for one. Maybe be gyrotrons
can heat the plasma enough, but planing to do experiment which can test
whether they can isn't exactly carving a new path - more just looking at
a possible new path.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Bye bye ITER and that otehr fusion attempt mayonaise thing
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131357.htm
Researchers dig deeper into stability challenges of nuclear fusion -- with mayonnaise
Now all I am waiting for is a 10 year old kid doing a better than break even fusion experiment in its parents kitchen...
You may have to wait a long time. Mayonaise may exhibit Rayleigh-Taylor
instability, but the lessons it might be able to impart would be
difficult to translate into totomak design.
I like that Farnsworth fusor thing
Of course you do. You are too dim to notice that it can't generate
enough energy to be a useful energy source - though it can be a handy
source of neutrons if you need them.

This spelled out if the link you posted, but clearly didn't read.
Post by Jan Panteltje
They mention the grid gets too hot as a problem.
Why not use a water filled pipe as grid,
heat the water to steam, drive a small steam engine
that drives a generator that drives a HV converter,
simple electronics, there is a table top experiment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor
so many simple ways to improve that setup!
But none are going to make it an energy source.
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Jan Panteltje
2024-08-09 06:38:37 UTC
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On a sunny day (Fri, 9 Aug 2024 02:18:17 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Thu, 8 Aug 2024 17:13:36 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
Heating for fusion: Why toast plasma when you can microwave it!
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131216.htm
Carving a new path forward for compact fusion vessels
August 6, 2024
DOE/Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory
Can plasma be sufficiently heated inside a tokamak using only microwaves?
New research suggests it can! Eliminating the central ohmic heating coil
normally used in tokamaks will free up much-needed space for a more compact,
efficient spherical tokamak.
Not so much carving a new path as looking for one. Maybe be gyrotrons
can heat the plasma enough, but planing to do experiment which can test
whether they can isn't exactly carving a new path - more just looking at
a possible new path.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Bye bye ITER and that otehr fusion attempt mayonaise thing
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131357.htm
Researchers dig deeper into stability challenges of nuclear fusion -- with mayonnaise
Now all I am waiting for is a 10 year old kid doing a better than break even fusion experiment in its parents kitchen...
You may have to wait a long time. Mayonaise may exhibit Rayleigh-Taylor
instability, but the lessons it might be able to impart would be
difficult to translate into totomak design.
I like that Farnsworth fusor thing
Of course you do. You are too dim to notice that it can't generate
enough energy to be a useful energy source - though it can be a handy
source of neutrons if you need them.
This spelled out if the link you posted, but clearly didn't read.
Post by Jan Panteltje
They mention the grid gets too hot as a problem.
Why not use a water filled pipe as grid,
heat the water to steam, drive a small steam engine
that drives a generator that drives a HV converter,
simple electronics, there is a table top experiment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor
so many simple ways to improve that setup!
But none are going to make it an energy source.
Yea, and planes could never fly as those were heavier than air.
There are solutions, some are simple.
I have been posting about that Farnsworth fusor many times, but your amnesia must have gotten to you again.

What will never produce energy is the large political job creation projects for albert onestone parrots like ITER is.
Or that laser fusion crap in 'merrica.

Same for anti-gravity.

This is fun info too, previous thing you did not graps:
Carvings at ancient monument may be world's oldest calendars
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131238.htm
comets causing glowball cooling?

As to solder, when was the last time your front limbs held a sodering iron?
Bill Sloman
2024-08-09 15:23:25 UTC
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Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Fri, 9 Aug 2024 02:18:17 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Thu, 8 Aug 2024 17:13:36 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
Heating for fusion: Why toast plasma when you can microwave it!
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131216.htm
Carving a new path forward for compact fusion vessels
August 6, 2024
DOE/Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory
Can plasma be sufficiently heated inside a tokamak using only microwaves?
New research suggests it can! Eliminating the central ohmic heating coil
normally used in tokamaks will free up much-needed space for a more compact,
efficient spherical tokamak.
Not so much carving a new path as looking for one. Maybe be gyrotrons
can heat the plasma enough, but planing to do experiment which can test
whether they can isn't exactly carving a new path - more just looking at
a possible new path.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Bye bye ITER and that otehr fusion attempt mayonaise thing
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131357.htm
Researchers dig deeper into stability challenges of nuclear fusion -- with mayonnaise
Now all I am waiting for is a 10 year old kid doing a better than break even fusion experiment in its parents kitchen...
You may have to wait a long time. Mayonaise may exhibit Rayleigh-Taylor
instability, but the lessons it might be able to impart would be
difficult to translate into totomak design.
I like that Farnsworth fusor thing
Of course you do. You are too dim to notice that it can't generate
enough energy to be a useful energy source - though it can be a handy
source of neutrons if you need them.
This spelled out if the link you posted, but clearly didn't read.
Post by Jan Panteltje
They mention the grid gets too hot as a problem.
Why not use a water filled pipe as grid,
heat the water to steam, drive a small steam engine
that drives a generator that drives a HV converter,
simple electronics, there is a table top experiment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor
so many simple ways to improve that setup!
But none are going to make it an energy source.
Yea, and planes could never fly as those were heavier than air.
The objections to the Farnsworth fusor as a power source are rather more
fundamental. Birds fly, and they are heavier than air.
Post by Jan Panteltje
There are solutions, some are simple.
I have been posting about that Farnsworth fusor many times, but your amnesia must have gotten to you again.
You've also be posting about the Le age theory of gravity. I'm well
aware that you have moronic obsessions, and can't learn how silly they are.
Post by Jan Panteltje
What will never produce energy is the large political job creation projects for albert onestone parrots like ITER is.
Or that laser fusion crap in 'merrica.
The laser driven fusion machine at the NIF has produced energy, if
nowhere near enough to be useful.

It's main job was always testing nuclear weapons in a way that didn't
dump radioactive isotopes into the atmosphere, but you are too dumb to
have processed that information.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Same for anti-gravity.
"Same"?
Post by Jan Panteltje
Carvings at ancient monument may be world's oldest calendars
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131238.htm
comets causing global cooling?
Comets are fluffy snowballs that out-gas when their elliptical orbits
get close to the sun, so that we can see them in the night sky.

Meteors are lumps of rock that we notice when they actually hit the
earth. Big ones, like the asteroid that killed off the dinosaurs, put
enough dust into the upper atmosphere to cause some global cooling until
the dust washes out.

Calenders are all about repetitive stuff in the sky. and repeating
meteor streams don't dump enough mass to change the climate.
Post by Jan Panteltje
As to solder, when was the last time your front limbs held a soldering iron?
About a year ago. An electronic alarm clock stopped working, because one
of the leads had fallen off. I tried to solder it back on, but the wire
was too fine to let me do it. I do have some heavier insulated
multi-strand hook-up wire somewhere around the flat, but I haven't been
able to find it yet, and I've got two other alarms clocks that still
work, so I haven't looked that hard.
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John Larkin
2024-08-09 15:56:44 UTC
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Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Fri, 9 Aug 2024 02:18:17 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Thu, 8 Aug 2024 17:13:36 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
Heating for fusion: Why toast plasma when you can microwave it!
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131216.htm
Carving a new path forward for compact fusion vessels
August 6, 2024
DOE/Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory
Can plasma be sufficiently heated inside a tokamak using only microwaves?
New research suggests it can! Eliminating the central ohmic heating coil
normally used in tokamaks will free up much-needed space for a more compact,
efficient spherical tokamak.
Not so much carving a new path as looking for one. Maybe be gyrotrons
can heat the plasma enough, but planing to do experiment which can test
whether they can isn't exactly carving a new path - more just looking at
a possible new path.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Bye bye ITER and that otehr fusion attempt mayonaise thing
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131357.htm
Researchers dig deeper into stability challenges of nuclear fusion -- with mayonnaise
Now all I am waiting for is a 10 year old kid doing a better than break even fusion experiment in its parents kitchen...
You may have to wait a long time. Mayonaise may exhibit Rayleigh-Taylor
instability, but the lessons it might be able to impart would be
difficult to translate into totomak design.
I like that Farnsworth fusor thing
Of course you do. You are too dim to notice that it can't generate
enough energy to be a useful energy source - though it can be a handy
source of neutrons if you need them.
This spelled out if the link you posted, but clearly didn't read.
Post by Jan Panteltje
They mention the grid gets too hot as a problem.
Why not use a water filled pipe as grid,
heat the water to steam, drive a small steam engine
that drives a generator that drives a HV converter,
simple electronics, there is a table top experiment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor
so many simple ways to improve that setup!
But none are going to make it an energy source.
Yea, and planes could never fly as those were heavier than air.
There are solutions, some are simple.
I have been posting about that Farnsworth fusor many times, but your amnesia must have gotten to you again.
What will never produce energy is the large political job creation projects for albert onestone parrots like ITER is.
Or that laser fusion crap in 'merrica.
NIF is really about nuclear weapons, but the over-unity energy yield
is interesting.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Same for anti-gravity.
Carvings at ancient monument may be world's oldest calendars
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131238.htm
comets causing glowball cooling?
As to solder, when was the last time your front limbs held a sodering iron?
Good question!
Bill Sloman
2024-08-10 05:01:34 UTC
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Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Fri, 9 Aug 2024 02:18:17 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Thu, 8 Aug 2024 17:13:36 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
Heating for fusion: Why toast plasma when you can microwave it!
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131216.htm
Carving a new path forward for compact fusion vessels
August 6, 2024
DOE/Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory
Can plasma be sufficiently heated inside a tokamak using only microwaves?
New research suggests it can! Eliminating the central ohmic heating coil
normally used in tokamaks will free up much-needed space for a more compact,
efficient spherical tokamak.
Not so much carving a new path as looking for one. Maybe be gyrotrons
can heat the plasma enough, but planing to do experiment which can test
whether they can isn't exactly carving a new path - more just looking at
a possible new path.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Bye bye ITER and that otehr fusion attempt mayonaise thing
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131357.htm
Researchers dig deeper into stability challenges of nuclear fusion -- with mayonnaise
Now all I am waiting for is a 10 year old kid doing a better than break even fusion experiment in its parents kitchen...
You may have to wait a long time. Mayonaise may exhibit Rayleigh-Taylor
instability, but the lessons it might be able to impart would be
difficult to translate into totomak design.
I like that Farnsworth fusor thing
Of course you do. You are too dim to notice that it can't generate
enough energy to be a useful energy source - though it can be a handy
source of neutrons if you need them.
This spelled out if the link you posted, but clearly didn't read.
Post by Jan Panteltje
They mention the grid gets too hot as a problem.
Why not use a water filled pipe as grid,
heat the water to steam, drive a small steam engine
that drives a generator that drives a HV converter,
simple electronics, there is a table top experiment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor
so many simple ways to improve that setup!
But none are going to make it an energy source.
Yea, and planes could never fly as those were heavier than air.
There are solutions, some are simple.
I have been posting about that Farnsworth fusor many times, but your amnesia must have gotten to you again.
What will never produce energy is the large political job creation projects for albert onestone parrots like ITER is.
Or that laser fusion crap in 'merrica.
NIF is really about nuclear weapons, but the over-unity energy yield
is interesting.
It serves to give the physicists involved something they can publish in
the peer-reviewed literature, but it is a long way from any kind of
practical application.

https://hb11.energy

is more promising, not least because hydrogen-boron fusion doesn't
generate neutrons which mess up the hardware that create the conditions
for fusion.
Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
Same for anti-gravity.
Carvings at ancient monument may be world's oldest calendars
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131238.htm
comets causing glowball cooling?
As to solder, when was the last time your front limbs held a soldering iron?
Good question!
Not really. It speaks to the point that I'm not much involved in
practical electronics at the moment, though I do persist in applying for
the occasional job. John Larkin can't be bothered to put in the parallel
capacitance of his simulated inductors in his LTSpice simulations, but
still thinks that he is doing practical electronics.
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Jan Panteltje
2024-08-10 06:01:32 UTC
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On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Aug 2024 08:56:44 -0700) it happened John Larkin
Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Fri, 9 Aug 2024 02:18:17 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Thu, 8 Aug 2024 17:13:36 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
Heating for fusion: Why toast plasma when you can microwave it!
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131216.htm
Carving a new path forward for compact fusion vessels
August 6, 2024
DOE/Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory
Can plasma be sufficiently heated inside a tokamak using only microwaves?
New research suggests it can! Eliminating the central ohmic heating coil
normally used in tokamaks will free up much-needed space for a more compact,
efficient spherical tokamak.
Not so much carving a new path as looking for one. Maybe be gyrotrons
can heat the plasma enough, but planing to do experiment which can test
whether they can isn't exactly carving a new path - more just looking at
a possible new path.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Bye bye ITER and that otehr fusion attempt mayonaise thing
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131357.htm
Researchers dig deeper into stability challenges of nuclear fusion -- with mayonnaise
Now all I am waiting for is a 10 year old kid doing a better than break even fusion experiment in its parents kitchen...
You may have to wait a long time. Mayonaise may exhibit Rayleigh-Taylor
instability, but the lessons it might be able to impart would be
difficult to translate into totomak design.
I like that Farnsworth fusor thing
Of course you do. You are too dim to notice that it can't generate
enough energy to be a useful energy source - though it can be a handy
source of neutrons if you need them.
This spelled out if the link you posted, but clearly didn't read.
Post by Jan Panteltje
They mention the grid gets too hot as a problem.
Why not use a water filled pipe as grid,
heat the water to steam, drive a small steam engine
that drives a generator that drives a HV converter,
simple electronics, there is a table top experiment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor
so many simple ways to improve that setup!
But none are going to make it an energy source.
Yea, and planes could never fly as those were heavier than air.
There are solutions, some are simple.
I have been posting about that Farnsworth fusor many times, but your amnesia must have gotten to you again.
What will never produce energy is the large political job creation projects for albert onestone parrots like ITER is.
Or that laser fusion crap in 'merrica.
NIF is really about nuclear weapons, but the over-unity energy yield
is interesting.
Yes, but theequipment ises a zillio times more energy that is produced...
Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
Same for anti-gravity.
Carvings at ancient monument may be world's oldest calendars
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131238.htm
comets causing glowball cooling?
As to solder, when was the last time your front limbs held a sodering iron?
Good question!
Yea, had not touched it in several days myself .. was repairing a watch...
need better tools, but it works again..
We are in for some nice hot days here, 35 degrees C here predicted for Monday.
95 F?

As to that fusor, some old electron guns from color CRTs.. good focal point, 35 kV should be no problem
need a good lab and mechanical man.
Maybe some electron guns from old film scanner CRTs, those used even higher voltages.
electrons; more basic and simpler than light.
Farnsworth was a genius.
John Larkin
2024-08-10 16:35:16 UTC
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On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Aug 2024 08:56:44 -0700) it happened John Larkin
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On a sunny day (Fri, 9 Aug 2024 02:18:17 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
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Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Thu, 8 Aug 2024 17:13:36 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
Heating for fusion: Why toast plasma when you can microwave it!
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131216.htm
Carving a new path forward for compact fusion vessels
August 6, 2024
DOE/Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory
Can plasma be sufficiently heated inside a tokamak using only microwaves?
New research suggests it can! Eliminating the central ohmic heating coil
normally used in tokamaks will free up much-needed space for a more compact,
efficient spherical tokamak.
Not so much carving a new path as looking for one. Maybe be gyrotrons
can heat the plasma enough, but planing to do experiment which can test
whether they can isn't exactly carving a new path - more just looking at
a possible new path.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Bye bye ITER and that otehr fusion attempt mayonaise thing
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131357.htm
Researchers dig deeper into stability challenges of nuclear fusion -- with mayonnaise
Now all I am waiting for is a 10 year old kid doing a better than break even fusion experiment in its parents kitchen...
You may have to wait a long time. Mayonaise may exhibit Rayleigh-Taylor
instability, but the lessons it might be able to impart would be
difficult to translate into totomak design.
I like that Farnsworth fusor thing
Of course you do. You are too dim to notice that it can't generate
enough energy to be a useful energy source - though it can be a handy
source of neutrons if you need them.
This spelled out if the link you posted, but clearly didn't read.
Post by Jan Panteltje
They mention the grid gets too hot as a problem.
Why not use a water filled pipe as grid,
heat the water to steam, drive a small steam engine
that drives a generator that drives a HV converter,
simple electronics, there is a table top experiment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor
so many simple ways to improve that setup!
But none are going to make it an energy source.
Yea, and planes could never fly as those were heavier than air.
There are solutions, some are simple.
I have been posting about that Farnsworth fusor many times, but your amnesia must have gotten to you again.
What will never produce energy is the large political job creation projects for albert onestone parrots like ITER is.
Or that laser fusion crap in 'merrica.
NIF is really about nuclear weapons, but the over-unity energy yield
is interesting.
Yes, but theequipment ises a zillio times more energy that is produced...
Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
Same for anti-gravity.
Carvings at ancient monument may be world's oldest calendars
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131238.htm
comets causing glowball cooling?
As to solder, when was the last time your front limbs held a sodering iron?
Good question!
Yea, had not touched it in several days myself .. was repairing a watch...
need better tools, but it works again..
We are in for some nice hot days here, 35 degrees C here predicted for Monday.
95 F?
We're up in the mountains, in Truckee, and I'm not soldering here
either. It's hit 92F during the day but it's cold at night. Well, 92
above an asphalt road; it's cooler in the woods. It's dry so doesn't
feel very hot. We get occasional wafts of smoke, from the usual
California forest fires. We had a bear stroll down the street
yesterday.

I have a new intern starting soon, and there's so much to teach him,
including soldering.
Post by Jan Panteltje
As to that fusor, some old electron guns from color CRTs.. good focal point, 35 kV should be no problem
need a good lab and mechanical man.
Maybe some electron guns from old film scanner CRTs, those used even higher voltages.
electrons; more basic and simpler than light.
Farnsworth was a genius.
Yes. He was a mostly unlearned farm boy who invented electronic
television near here, on Green Street.

https://noehill.com/sf/landmarks/cal0941.asp

It's not hard to build a particle accelerator to get some fusion, but
it's not efficient.
Jan Panteltje
2024-08-11 05:33:43 UTC
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On a sunny day (Sat, 10 Aug 2024 09:35:16 -0700) it happened John Larkin
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On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Aug 2024 08:56:44 -0700) it happened John Larkin
Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Fri, 9 Aug 2024 02:18:17 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Thu, 8 Aug 2024 17:13:36 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
Heating for fusion: Why toast plasma when you can microwave it!
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131216.htm
Carving a new path forward for compact fusion vessels
August 6, 2024
DOE/Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory
Can plasma be sufficiently heated inside a tokamak using only microwaves?
New research suggests it can! Eliminating the central ohmic heating coil
normally used in tokamaks will free up much-needed space for a more compact,
efficient spherical tokamak.
Not so much carving a new path as looking for one. Maybe be gyrotrons
can heat the plasma enough, but planing to do experiment which can test
whether they can isn't exactly carving a new path - more just looking at
a possible new path.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Bye bye ITER and that otehr fusion attempt mayonaise thing
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131357.htm
Researchers dig deeper into stability challenges of nuclear fusion -- with mayonnaise
Now all I am waiting for is a 10 year old kid doing a better than break even fusion experiment in its parents
kitchen...
You may have to wait a long time. Mayonaise may exhibit Rayleigh-Taylor
instability, but the lessons it might be able to impart would be
difficult to translate into totomak design.
I like that Farnsworth fusor thing
Of course you do. You are too dim to notice that it can't generate
enough energy to be a useful energy source - though it can be a handy
source of neutrons if you need them.
This spelled out if the link you posted, but clearly didn't read.
Post by Jan Panteltje
They mention the grid gets too hot as a problem.
Why not use a water filled pipe as grid,
heat the water to steam, drive a small steam engine
that drives a generator that drives a HV converter,
simple electronics, there is a table top experiment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor
so many simple ways to improve that setup!
But none are going to make it an energy source.
Yea, and planes could never fly as those were heavier than air.
There are solutions, some are simple.
I have been posting about that Farnsworth fusor many times, but your amnesia must have gotten to you again.
What will never produce energy is the large political job creation projects for albert onestone parrots like ITER is.
Or that laser fusion crap in 'merrica.
NIF is really about nuclear weapons, but the over-unity energy yield
is interesting.
Yes, but theequipment ises a zillio times more energy that is produced...
Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
Same for anti-gravity.
Carvings at ancient monument may be world's oldest calendars
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131238.htm
comets causing glowball cooling?
As to solder, when was the last time your front limbs held a sodering iron?
Good question!
Yea, had not touched it in several days myself .. was repairing a watch...
need better tools, but it works again..
We are in for some nice hot days here, 35 degrees C here predicted for Monday.
95 F?
We're up in the mountains, in Truckee, and I'm not soldering here
either. It's hit 92F during the day but it's cold at night. Well, 92
above an asphalt road; it's cooler in the woods. It's dry so doesn't
feel very hot. We get occasional wafts of smoke, from the usual
California forest fires. We had a bear stroll down the street
yesterday.
We now have more wolf problems, a place where close to where used to live and go a a kid
has now had wolves attack little kids and kill many sheep.
Still the idiot greenish politicians here want to keep protecting the wolves...
No big fires here, air is clean..
I am close to the beach actually, little islands close to here are a big holiday attaction.
Ferries going there..
https://www.dutchwaddenislands.com/ameland/inspiration
Post by John Larkin
I have a new intern starting soon, and there's so much to teach him,
including soldering.
Not much practical stuff teached in collage these days?
What is his eduction background?
Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
As to that fusor, some old electron guns from color CRTs.. good focal point, 35 kV should be no problem
need a good lab and mechanical man.
Maybe some electron guns from old film scanner CRTs, those used even higher voltages.
electrons; more basic and simpler than light.
Farnsworth was a genius.
Yes. He was a mostly unlearned farm boy who invented electronic
television near here, on Green Street.
https://noehill.com/sf/landmarks/cal0941.asp
That is very nice
Post by John Larkin
It's not hard to build a particle accelerator to get some fusion, but
it's not efficient.
Yea, but something should be possible to increase on that 'fusor' setup.

As it is all about tiny particles, whe should have a small portable fusion power plant
say one for every car and every household.
No more huge power lines, like we now have no more telegraph lines for data.

It must be possible, we are overlooking something.
Atoms are very small...
Bill Sloman
2024-08-11 14:20:11 UTC
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Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Sat, 10 Aug 2024 09:35:16 -0700) it happened John Larkin
Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Aug 2024 08:56:44 -0700) it happened John Larkin
Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Fri, 9 Aug 2024 02:18:17 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Thu, 8 Aug 2024 17:13:36 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
Heating for fusion: Why toast plasma when you can microwave it!
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131216.htm
Carving a new path forward for compact fusion vessels
August 6, 2024
DOE/Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory
Can plasma be sufficiently heated inside a tokamak using only microwaves?
New research suggests it can! Eliminating the central ohmic heating coil
normally used in tokamaks will free up much-needed space for a more compact,
efficient spherical tokamak.
Not so much carving a new path as looking for one. Maybe be gyrotrons
can heat the plasma enough, but planing to do experiment which can test
whether they can isn't exactly carving a new path - more just looking at
a possible new path.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Bye bye ITER and that otehr fusion attempt mayonaise thing
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131357.htm
Researchers dig deeper into stability challenges of nuclear fusion -- with mayonnaise
Now all I am waiting for is a 10 year old kid doing a better than break even fusion experiment in its parents
kitchen...
You may have to wait a long time. Mayonaise may exhibit Rayleigh-Taylor
instability, but the lessons it might be able to impart would be
difficult to translate into totomak design.
I like that Farnsworth fusor thing
Of course you do. You are too dim to notice that it can't generate
enough energy to be a useful energy source - though it can be a handy
source of neutrons if you need them.
This spelled out if the link you posted, but clearly didn't read.
Post by Jan Panteltje
They mention the grid gets too hot as a problem.
Why not use a water filled pipe as grid,
heat the water to steam, drive a small steam engine
that drives a generator that drives a HV converter,
simple electronics, there is a table top experiment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor
so many simple ways to improve that setup!
But none are going to make it an energy source.
Yea, and planes could never fly as those were heavier than air.
There are solutions, some are simple.
I have been posting about that Farnsworth fusor many times, but your amnesia must have gotten to you again.
What will never produce energy is the large political job creation projects for albert onestone parrots like ITER is.
Or that laser fusion crap in 'merrica.
NIF is really about nuclear weapons, but the over-unity energy yield
is interesting.
Yes, but theequipment ises a zillio times more energy that is produced...
Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
Same for anti-gravity.
Carvings at ancient monument may be world's oldest calendars
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131238.htm
comets causing glowball cooling?
As to solder, when was the last time your front limbs held a sodering iron?
Good question!
Yea, had not touched it in several days myself .. was repairing a watch...
need better tools, but it works again..
We are in for some nice hot days here, 35 degrees C here predicted for Monday.
95 F?
We're up in the mountains, in Truckee, and I'm not soldering here
either. It's hit 92F during the day but it's cold at night. Well, 92
above an asphalt road; it's cooler in the woods. It's dry so doesn't
feel very hot. We get occasional wafts of smoke, from the usual
California forest fires. We had a bear stroll down the street
yesterday.
We now have more wolf problems, a place where close to where used to live and go a a kid
has now had wolves attack little kids and kill many sheep.
Still the idiot greenish politicians here want to keep protecting the wolves...
No big fires here, air is clean..
I am close to the beach actually, little islands close to here are a big holiday attaction.
Ferries going there..
https://www.dutchwaddenislands.com/ameland/inspiration
Post by John Larkin
I have a new intern starting soon, and there's so much to teach him,
including soldering.
Not much practical stuff teached in collage these days?
What is his eduction background?
Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
As to that fusor, some old electron guns from color CRTs.. good focal point, 35 kV should be no problem
need a good lab and mechanical man.
Maybe some electron guns from old film scanner CRTs, those used even higher voltages.
electrons; more basic and simpler than light.
Farnsworth was a genius.
Yes. He was a mostly unlearned farm boy who invented electronic
television near here, on Green Street.
https://noehill.com/sf/landmarks/cal0941.asp
That is very nice
Post by John Larkin
It's not hard to build a particle accelerator to get some fusion, but
it's not efficient.
Yea, but something should be possible to increase on that 'fusor' setup.
But why do you think that?
Post by Jan Panteltje
As it is all about tiny particles, we should have a small portable fusion power plant
say one for every car and every household.
The tiny particles of oxygen that burn the almost as small hydrocarbon
molecules in cars call for tolerably bulky power units. Your logic sucks.
Post by Jan Panteltje
No more huge power lines, like we now have no more telegraph lines for data.
We now have fibre-optic cables rather than telegraph lines. We don't
route much data up to synchronous satellites any more - it's too slow
and you can't parallel up enough connections.
Post by Jan Panteltje
It must be possible, we are overlooking something.
Atoms are very small...
And so is Jan Panteltje's brain, even it contains 86 billion very small
neurones, some of which work.
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John Larkin
2024-08-11 15:32:44 UTC
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On a sunny day (Sat, 10 Aug 2024 09:35:16 -0700) it happened John Larkin
Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Aug 2024 08:56:44 -0700) it happened John Larkin
Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Fri, 9 Aug 2024 02:18:17 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Thu, 8 Aug 2024 17:13:36 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
Heating for fusion: Why toast plasma when you can microwave it!
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131216.htm
Carving a new path forward for compact fusion vessels
August 6, 2024
DOE/Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory
Can plasma be sufficiently heated inside a tokamak using only microwaves?
New research suggests it can! Eliminating the central ohmic heating coil
normally used in tokamaks will free up much-needed space for a more compact,
efficient spherical tokamak.
Not so much carving a new path as looking for one. Maybe be gyrotrons
can heat the plasma enough, but planing to do experiment which can test
whether they can isn't exactly carving a new path - more just looking at
a possible new path.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Bye bye ITER and that otehr fusion attempt mayonaise thing
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131357.htm
Researchers dig deeper into stability challenges of nuclear fusion -- with mayonnaise
Now all I am waiting for is a 10 year old kid doing a better than break even fusion experiment in its parents
kitchen...
You may have to wait a long time. Mayonaise may exhibit Rayleigh-Taylor
instability, but the lessons it might be able to impart would be
difficult to translate into totomak design.
I like that Farnsworth fusor thing
Of course you do. You are too dim to notice that it can't generate
enough energy to be a useful energy source - though it can be a handy
source of neutrons if you need them.
This spelled out if the link you posted, but clearly didn't read.
Post by Jan Panteltje
They mention the grid gets too hot as a problem.
Why not use a water filled pipe as grid,
heat the water to steam, drive a small steam engine
that drives a generator that drives a HV converter,
simple electronics, there is a table top experiment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor
so many simple ways to improve that setup!
But none are going to make it an energy source.
Yea, and planes could never fly as those were heavier than air.
There are solutions, some are simple.
I have been posting about that Farnsworth fusor many times, but your amnesia must have gotten to you again.
What will never produce energy is the large political job creation projects for albert onestone parrots like ITER is.
Or that laser fusion crap in 'merrica.
NIF is really about nuclear weapons, but the over-unity energy yield
is interesting.
Yes, but theequipment ises a zillio times more energy that is produced...
Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
Same for anti-gravity.
Carvings at ancient monument may be world's oldest calendars
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131238.htm
comets causing glowball cooling?
As to solder, when was the last time your front limbs held a sodering iron?
Good question!
Yea, had not touched it in several days myself .. was repairing a watch...
need better tools, but it works again..
We are in for some nice hot days here, 35 degrees C here predicted for Monday.
95 F?
We're up in the mountains, in Truckee, and I'm not soldering here
either. It's hit 92F during the day but it's cold at night. Well, 92
above an asphalt road; it's cooler in the woods. It's dry so doesn't
feel very hot. We get occasional wafts of smoke, from the usual
California forest fires. We had a bear stroll down the street
yesterday.
We now have more wolf problems, a place where close to where used to live and go a a kid
has now had wolves attack little kids and kill many sheep.
Still the idiot greenish politicians here want to keep protecting the wolves...
No big fires here, air is clean..
I am close to the beach actually, little islands close to here are a big holiday attaction.
Ferries going there..
https://www.dutchwaddenislands.com/ameland/inspiration
Post by John Larkin
I have a new intern starting soon, and there's so much to teach him,
including soldering.
Not much practical stuff teached in collage these days?
What is his eduction background?
Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
As to that fusor, some old electron guns from color CRTs.. good focal point, 35 kV should be no problem
need a good lab and mechanical man.
Maybe some electron guns from old film scanner CRTs, those used even higher voltages.
electrons; more basic and simpler than light.
Farnsworth was a genius.
Yes. He was a mostly unlearned farm boy who invented electronic
television near here, on Green Street.
https://noehill.com/sf/landmarks/cal0941.asp
That is very nice
Post by John Larkin
It's not hard to build a particle accelerator to get some fusion, but
it's not efficient.
Yea, but something should be possible to increase on that 'fusor' setup.
As it is all about tiny particles, whe should have a small portable fusion power plant
say one for every car and every household.
No more huge power lines, like we now have no more telegraph lines for data.
It must be possible, we are overlooking something.
Atoms are very small...
Fission works fine, even better if we'd recycle used fuel.

Natural gas is great too. We don't really have an energy problem.
Jan Panteltje
2024-08-12 00:03:52 UTC
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On a sunny day (Sat, 10 Aug 2024 09:35:16 -0700) it happened John Larkin
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On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Aug 2024 08:56:44 -0700) it happened John Larkin
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On a sunny day (Fri, 9 Aug 2024 02:18:17 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Thu, 8 Aug 2024 17:13:36 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
Heating for fusion: Why toast plasma when you can microwave it!
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131216.htm
Carving a new path forward for compact fusion vessels
August 6, 2024
DOE/Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory
Can plasma be sufficiently heated inside a tokamak using only microwaves?
New research suggests it can! Eliminating the central ohmic heating coil
normally used in tokamaks will free up much-needed space for a more compact,
efficient spherical tokamak.
Not so much carving a new path as looking for one. Maybe be gyrotrons
can heat the plasma enough, but planing to do experiment which can test
whether they can isn't exactly carving a new path - more just looking at
a possible new path.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Bye bye ITER and that otehr fusion attempt mayonaise thing
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131357.htm
Researchers dig deeper into stability challenges of nuclear fusion -- with mayonnaise
Now all I am waiting for is a 10 year old kid doing a better than break even fusion experiment in its parents
kitchen...
You may have to wait a long time. Mayonaise may exhibit Rayleigh-Taylor
instability, but the lessons it might be able to impart would be
difficult to translate into totomak design.
I like that Farnsworth fusor thing
Of course you do. You are too dim to notice that it can't generate
enough energy to be a useful energy source - though it can be a handy
source of neutrons if you need them.
This spelled out if the link you posted, but clearly didn't read.
Post by Jan Panteltje
They mention the grid gets too hot as a problem.
Why not use a water filled pipe as grid,
heat the water to steam, drive a small steam engine
that drives a generator that drives a HV converter,
simple electronics, there is a table top experiment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor
so many simple ways to improve that setup!
But none are going to make it an energy source.
Yea, and planes could never fly as those were heavier than air.
There are solutions, some are simple.
I have been posting about that Farnsworth fusor many times, but your amnesia must have gotten to you again.
What will never produce energy is the large political job creation projects for albert onestone parrots like ITER is.
Or that laser fusion crap in 'merrica.
NIF is really about nuclear weapons, but the over-unity energy yield
is interesting.
Yes, but theequipment ises a zillio times more energy that is produced...
Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
Same for anti-gravity.
Carvings at ancient monument may be world's oldest calendars
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131238.htm
comets causing glowball cooling?
As to solder, when was the last time your front limbs held a sodering iron?
Good question!
Yea, had not touched it in several days myself .. was repairing a watch...
need better tools, but it works again..
We are in for some nice hot days here, 35 degrees C here predicted for Monday.
95 F?
We're up in the mountains, in Truckee, and I'm not soldering here
either. It's hit 92F during the day but it's cold at night. Well, 92
above an asphalt road; it's cooler in the woods. It's dry so doesn't
feel very hot. We get occasional wafts of smoke, from the usual
California forest fires. We had a bear stroll down the street
yesterday.
We now have more wolf problems, a place where close to where used to live and go a a kid
has now had wolves attack little kids and kill many sheep.
Still the idiot greenish politicians here want to keep protecting the wolves...
No big fires here, air is clean..
I am close to the beach actually, little islands close to here are a big holiday attaction.
Ferries going there..
https://www.dutchwaddenislands.com/ameland/inspiration
Post by John Larkin
I have a new intern starting soon, and there's so much to teach him,
including soldering.
Not much practical stuff teached in collage these days?
What is his eduction background?
Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
As to that fusor, some old electron guns from color CRTs.. good focal point, 35 kV should be no problem
need a good lab and mechanical man.
Maybe some electron guns from old film scanner CRTs, those used even higher voltages.
electrons; more basic and simpler than light.
Farnsworth was a genius.
Yes. He was a mostly unlearned farm boy who invented electronic
television near here, on Green Street.
https://noehill.com/sf/landmarks/cal0941.asp
That is very nice
Post by John Larkin
It's not hard to build a particle accelerator to get some fusion, but
it's not efficient.
Yea, but something should be possible to increase on that 'fusor' setup.
As it is all about tiny particles, whe should have a small portable fusion power plant
say one for every car and every household.
No more huge power lines, like we now have no more telegraph lines for data.
It must be possible, we are overlooking something.
Atoms are very small...
Fission works fine, even better if we'd recycle used fuel.
Natural gas is great too. We don't really have an energy problem.
Problem is that there _is_ an energy problem,
thousands without power now in Florida I'v read.
It is the _distribution_ of electric power that fails over and over again.

RTG power sources are cool too, some spacecraft are powered by it for many years, like that Pioneer thing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_10

But well _everything_- is dangerous...

I had a car that ran on either LPG or petrol, by just flipping a switch..
So yes, that is an option.
LPG was much cheaper than petrol, did drive long distances.. but then the government here started to tax it...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquefied_petroleum_gas
Bill Sloman
2024-08-12 14:37:47 UTC
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On a sunny day (Sat, 10 Aug 2024 09:35:16 -0700) it happened John Larkin
Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Aug 2024 08:56:44 -0700) it happened John Larkin
Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Fri, 9 Aug 2024 02:18:17 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Thu, 8 Aug 2024 17:13:36 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by Jan Panteltje
Heating for fusion: Why toast plasma when you can microwave it!
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131216.htm
Carving a new path forward for compact fusion vessels
August 6, 2024
DOE/Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory
Can plasma be sufficiently heated inside a tokamak using only microwaves?
New research suggests it can! Eliminating the central ohmic heating coil
normally used in tokamaks will free up much-needed space for a more compact,
efficient spherical tokamak.
Not so much carving a new path as looking for one. Maybe be gyrotrons
can heat the plasma enough, but planing to do experiment which can test
whether they can isn't exactly carving a new path - more just looking at
a possible new path.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Bye bye ITER and that otehr fusion attempt mayonaise thing
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131357.htm
Researchers dig deeper into stability challenges of nuclear fusion -- with mayonnaise
Now all I am waiting for is a 10 year old kid doing a better than break even fusion experiment in its parents
kitchen...
You may have to wait a long time. Mayonaise may exhibit Rayleigh-Taylor
instability, but the lessons it might be able to impart would be
difficult to translate into totomak design.
I like that Farnsworth fusor thing
Of course you do. You are too dim to notice that it can't generate
enough energy to be a useful energy source - though it can be a handy
source of neutrons if you need them.
This spelled out if the link you posted, but clearly didn't read.
Post by Jan Panteltje
They mention the grid gets too hot as a problem.
Why not use a water filled pipe as grid,
heat the water to steam, drive a small steam engine
that drives a generator that drives a HV converter,
simple electronics, there is a table top experiment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor
so many simple ways to improve that setup!
But none are going to make it an energy source.
Yea, and planes could never fly as those were heavier than air.
There are solutions, some are simple.
I have been posting about that Farnsworth fusor many times, but your amnesia must have gotten to you again.
What will never produce energy is the large political job creation projects for albert onestone parrots like ITER is.
Or that laser fusion crap in 'merrica.
NIF is really about nuclear weapons, but the over-unity energy yield
is interesting.
Yes, but theequipment ises a zillio times more energy that is produced...
Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
Same for anti-gravity.
Carvings at ancient monument may be world's oldest calendars
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131238.htm
comets causing glowball cooling?
As to solder, when was the last time your front limbs held a sodering iron?
Good question!
Yea, had not touched it in several days myself .. was repairing a watch...
need better tools, but it works again..
We are in for some nice hot days here, 35 degrees C here predicted for Monday.
95 F?
We're up in the mountains, in Truckee, and I'm not soldering here
either. It's hit 92F during the day but it's cold at night. Well, 92
above an asphalt road; it's cooler in the woods. It's dry so doesn't
feel very hot. We get occasional wafts of smoke, from the usual
California forest fires. We had a bear stroll down the street
yesterday.
We now have more wolf problems, a place where close to where used to live and go a a kid
has now had wolves attack little kids and kill many sheep.
Still the idiot greenish politicians here want to keep protecting the wolves...
No big fires here, air is clean..
I am close to the beach actually, little islands close to here are a big holiday attaction.
Ferries going there..
https://www.dutchwaddenislands.com/ameland/inspiration
Post by John Larkin
I have a new intern starting soon, and there's so much to teach him,
including soldering.
Not much practical stuff teached in collage these days?
What is his eduction background?
Post by John Larkin
Post by Jan Panteltje
As to that fusor, some old electron guns from color CRTs.. good focal point, 35 kV should be no problem
need a good lab and mechanical man.
Maybe some electron guns from old film scanner CRTs, those used even higher voltages.
electrons; more basic and simpler than light.
Farnsworth was a genius.
Yes. He was a mostly unlearned farm boy who invented electronic
television near here, on Green Street.
https://noehill.com/sf/landmarks/cal0941.asp
That is very nice
Post by John Larkin
It's not hard to build a particle accelerator to get some fusion, but
it's not efficient.
Yea, but something should be possible to increase on that 'fusor' setup.
As it is all about tiny particles, whe should have a small portable fusion power plant
say one for every car and every household.
No more huge power lines, like we now have no more telegraph lines for data.
It must be possible, we are overlooking something.
Atoms are very small...
Fission works fine, even better if we'd recycle used fuel.
But there is the problem that the fission products include stuff that
stays radioactive for more than 100,000 years. We've been generating
them for more than 70 years now, and have yet to set up any kind of long
term repository. There are theoretically acceptable solutions, but the
neighbourhoods that get asked accommodate them don't find them
acceptable in practice.

And the energy produced isn't as cheap the energy you get from renewable
sources
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Natural gas is great too. We don't really have an energy problem.
Until you realise that anthropogenic global warming is a real problem,
despite the lying propaganda churned out by the fossil carbon extraction
industry. It is aimed at gullible twits, and we do have some of them
posting here.

And burning natural gas doesn't produce energy as cheaply as you can get
from renewable sources either.
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On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Aug 2024 08:56:44 -0700) it happened John Larkin
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On a sunny day (Fri, 9 Aug 2024 02:18:17 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
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On a sunny day (Thu, 8 Aug 2024 17:13:36 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
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Heating for fusion: Why toast plasma when you can microwave it!
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131216.htm
Carving a new path forward for compact fusion vessels
August 6, 2024
DOE/Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory
Can plasma be sufficiently heated inside a tokamak using only microwaves?
New research suggests it can! Eliminating the central ohmic heating coil
normally used in tokamaks will free up much-needed space for a more compact,
efficient spherical tokamak.
Not so much carving a new path as looking for one. Maybe be gyrotrons
can heat the plasma enough, but planing to do experiment which can test
whether they can isn't exactly carving a new path - more just looking at
a possible new path.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Bye bye ITER and that otehr fusion attempt mayonaise thing
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131357.htm
Researchers dig deeper into stability challenges of nuclear fusion -- with mayonnaise
Now all I am waiting for is a 10 year old kid doing a better than break even fusion experiment in its parents kitchen...
You may have to wait a long time. Mayonaise may exhibit Rayleigh-Taylor
instability, but the lessons it might be able to impart would be
difficult to translate into totomak design.
I like that Farnsworth fusor thing
Of course you do. You are too dim to notice that it can't generate
enough energy to be a useful energy source - though it can be a handy
source of neutrons if you need them.
This spelled out if the link you posted, but clearly didn't read.
Post by Jan Panteltje
They mention the grid gets too hot as a problem.
Why not use a water filled pipe as grid,
heat the water to steam, drive a small steam engine
that drives a generator that drives a HV converter,
simple electronics, there is a table top experiment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor
so many simple ways to improve that setup!
But none are going to make it an energy source.
Yea, and planes could never fly as those were heavier than air.
There are solutions, some are simple.
I have been posting about that Farnsworth fusor many times, but your amnesia must have gotten to you again.
What will never produce energy is the large political job creation projects for albert onestone parrots like ITER is.
Or that laser fusion crap in 'merrica.
NIF is really about nuclear weapons, but the over-unity energy yield
is interesting.
Yes, but theequipment ises a zillio times more energy that is produced...
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Same for anti-gravity.
Carvings at ancient monument may be world's oldest calendars
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240806131238.htm
comets causing glowball cooling?
As to solder, when was the last time your front limbs held a sodering iron?
Good question!
Yea, had not touched it in several days myself .. was repairing a watch...
need better tools, but it works again..
We are in for some nice hot days here, 35 degrees C here predicted for Monday.
95 F?
We're up in the mountains, in Truckee, and I'm not soldering here
either. It's hit 92F during the day but it's cold at night. Well, 92
above an asphalt road; it's cooler in the woods. It's dry so doesn't
feel very hot. We get occasional wafts of smoke, from the usual
California forest fires. We had a bear stroll down the street
yesterday.
I have a new intern starting soon, and there's so much to teach him,
including soldering.
If there wasn't you wouldn't have hired him.

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