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OT: A lot better than a Covid death shot!
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Cursitor Doom
2024-03-07 10:10:45 UTC
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Gut health. *So* important!

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/alteration-gut-microbiota-affects-severity-and-complications-covid-19
Colin Bignell
2024-03-07 10:47:50 UTC
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Post by Cursitor Doom
Gut health. *So* important!
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/alteration-gut-microbiota-affects-severity-and-complications-covid-19
A study in The Lancet reported no adverse effects from a man getting 217
Covid jabs in 29 months:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(24)00134-8/fulltext#sec1
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Jan Panteltje
2024-03-07 11:42:27 UTC
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On a sunny day (Thu, 7 Mar 2024 10:47:50 +0000) it happened Colin Bignell
Post by Colin Bignell
Post by Cursitor Doom
Gut health. *So* important!
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/alteration-gut-microbiota-affects-severity-and-complications-covid-19
A study in The Lancet reported no adverse effects from a man getting 217
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(24)00134-8/fulltext#sec1
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Colin Bignell
I never had a COVID shot and have no adverse effects
Never had a cold in my life, seem to have anti-bodies against it and some other things too,
like TBC, tested positive with an arm scratch test in primary school, got xrays 2 or 3 times,
nothing found, Now I am almost 80 ...

Recently was reading that they found a link between COVID shots and long-term COVID.
Many have died from blood cloth from the COVID shots.
Many sporters got heart trouble, some died on the playing field.

Its the evil US its Biological Warfare Department designed COVID (Faulty or something was the bad guys name),
and the US Medical Industrial Complex cashed in on their un-tested medicine,
hiding info about how dangerous those vaccines were.
I knew enough when in an UK test on the hospital staff 2 got sick from 10, and one died later from it.
Hopefully US precedent byethen dies and goes to hell (because of him supporting irael's genocide),
because if he goes to heaven it will be all wars there.
Clearly his COVID shots did not improve his memory or ethics,

Yes gut biome is important.
Am careful, I do not eat humans, way too fat.
When WW3 starts we have to re-evaluate that.
darius
2024-03-07 13:11:35 UTC
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Bill Sloman
2024-03-07 13:52:58 UTC
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<snip>
Post by Jan Panteltje
I never had a COVID shot and have no adverse effects
Never had a cold in my life, seem to have anti-bodies against it and some other things too,
like TBC, tested positive with an arm scratch test in primary school, got x-rays 2 or 3 times,
nothing found, Now I am almost 80 ...
Recently was reading that they found a link between COVID shots and long-term COVID.
But you can't post a link to it.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Many have died from blood cloth from the COVID shots.
A few. Rather fewer than would have died if they hadn't had that
particular COVID shot - Astra Zeneca - and not been protected against
Covid-19 by it.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Many sporters got heart trouble, some died on the playing field.
They've been doing that since long before Covid-19 was a problem - there
are some congenital heart defects that only show up in young adults

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_cardiac_death_of_athletes
Post by Jan Panteltje
Its the evil US its Biological Warfare Department designed COVID (Faulty or something was the bad guys name),
and the US Medical Industrial Complex cashed in on their un-tested medicine,
hiding info about how dangerous those vaccines were.
Total nonsense.
Post by Jan Panteltje
I knew enough when in an UK test on the hospital staff 2 got sick from 10, and one died later from it.
Hopefully US president Biden dies and goes to hell (because of him supporting Israel's genocide),
He doesn't. He hasn't been able to stop them killing off large numbers
of Palestinian kids, but he's doing what he can to discourage them.
Post by Jan Panteltje
because if he goes to heaven it will be all wars there.
Clearly his COVID shots did not improve his memory or ethics.
They don't have any effect on either of them.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Yes gut biome is important.
Even Zero Hedge thinks so, even if their article is irrelevant twaddle.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Am careful, I do not eat humans, way too fat.
When WW3 starts we have to re-evaluate that.
Those of us that survive it. Eighty-year olds won't be numerous amongst
the survivors.
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Cursitor Doom
2024-03-07 14:26:40 UTC
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Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Thu, 7 Mar 2024 10:47:50 +0000) it happened Colin Bignell
Post by Colin Bignell
Post by Cursitor Doom
Gut health. *So* important!
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/alteration-gut-microbiota-affects-severity-and-complications-covid-19
A study in The Lancet reported no adverse effects from a man getting 217
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(24)00134-8/fulltext#sec1
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Colin Bignell
I never had a COVID shot and have no adverse effects
Never had a cold in my life, seem to have anti-bodies against it and some other things too,
like TBC, tested positive with an arm scratch test in primary school, got xrays 2 or 3 times,
nothing found, Now I am almost 80 ...
Recently was reading that they found a link between COVID shots and long-term COVID.
Many have died from blood cloth from the COVID shots.
Many sporters got heart trouble, some died on the playing field.
Its the evil US its Biological Warfare Department designed COVID (Faulty or something was the bad guys name),
Fauci. That's his name. Remember it.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/covid-engineered-researchers-chinese-lab-wuhan
Bill Sloman
2024-03-07 15:05:34 UTC
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<snip>
Post by Cursitor Doom
Post by Jan Panteltje
Its the evil US its Biological Warfare Department designed COVID (Faulty or something was the bad guys name),
Fauci. That's his name. Remember it.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/covid-engineered-researchers-chinese-lab-wuhan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaze_Media
It is designed to appeal to right-wing half-wits like Cursitor Doom, who
likes his conspiracy theories to be thoroughly absurd.

There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good at
keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea, but
Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.

The wet market in Wuhan is a much more likely source - lots more
potentially infected bush meat, exposed to many more people.
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The Natural Philosopher
2024-03-07 15:11:21 UTC
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Post by Bill Sloman
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good at
keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea, but
Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream consensus that the virus was
cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
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GB
2024-03-07 15:15:10 UTC
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Post by Bill Sloman
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good at
keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea, but
Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream  consensus that the virus was
cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
John Larkin
2024-03-07 15:28:25 UTC
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Post by GB
Post by Bill Sloman
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good at
keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea, but
Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream  consensus that the virus was
cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
The anti-lab theory is promoted by people who very much don't want the
lab origin to be the cause.
darius
2024-03-08 04:33:35 UTC
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There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good at
keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea, but
Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream  consensus that the virus was
cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
The anti-lab theory is promoted by people who very much don't want the
lab origin to be the cause.
The anti-lab theory is popular among people who subscribe to the "two
people can effectively keep a secret when one of them is dead"-theory
and "China does enough bad things without having to invent reasons"-theory.

China at least seems to manage their oppressed populations "well enough"
(deliberate scare quotes) such that they don't regularly have to bomb
and strafe 25,000 of them to death in retaliation for when they get
uppity and stage a violent prison riot.
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There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good at
keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea, but
Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream  consensus that the virus was
cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
The anti-lab theory is promoted by people who very much don't want the
lab origin to be the cause.
The anti-lab theory is popular among people who subscribe to the "two
people can effectively keep a secret when one of them is dead"-theory
and "China does enough bad things without having to invent reasons"-theory.

China at least seems to manage their oppressed populations "well enough"
(deliberate scare quotes) such that they don't regularly have to bomb
and strafe 25,000 of them to death in retaliation for when they get
uppity and stage a violent prison riot.
darius
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2024-03-07 16:39:29 UTC
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Post by Bill Sloman
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good
at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea,
but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream  consensus that the virus was
cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
No. Mainstream is that we will probably never know but that there were
no telltale signs of it being spliced together from other known viruses.
It has been sequenced and examined very widely which was what made the
mRNA vaccines possible once an invariant target protein was identified.
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2024-03-07 17:49:12 UTC
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Post by Bill Sloman
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good
at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea,
but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream  consensus that the virus
was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
No. Mainstream is that we will probably never know but that there were
no telltale signs of it being spliced together from other known viruses.
It has been sequenced and examined very widely which was what made the
mRNA vaccines possible once an invariant target protein was identified.
I think that in fact there *were* telltale signs
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Post by GB
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by Bill Sloman
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good
at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea,
but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream consensus that the virus
was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
No. Mainstream is that we will probably never know but that there were
no telltale signs of it being spliced together from other known
viruses. It has been sequenced and examined very widely which was what
made the mRNA vaccines possible once an invariant target protein was
identified.
I think that in fact there *were* telltale signs
Nope.
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2024-03-07 22:45:15 UTC
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There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good
at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea,
but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream  consensus that the virus
was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
No. Mainstream is that we will probably never know but that there were
no telltale signs of it being spliced together from other known
viruses. It has been sequenced and examined very widely which was what
made the mRNA vaccines possible once an invariant target protein was
identified.
I think that in fact there *were* telltale signs
What's the point of making that assertion without anything
solid to back it up? Come on, spill the beans or shut up!

Jeroen Belleman
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There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty
good at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid
idea, but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream  consensus that the virus
was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
No. Mainstream is that we will probably never know but that there
were no telltale signs of it being spliced together from other known
viruses. It has been sequenced and examined very widely which was
what made the mRNA vaccines possible once an invariant target protein
was identified.
I think that in fact there *were* telltale signs
What's the point of making that assertion without anything
solid to back it up? Come on, spill the beans or shut up!
Others have done so. I cited an article from a US government hearing.
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Bill Sloman
2024-03-08 07:05:52 UTC
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Post by Martin Brown
Post by GB
Post by Bill Sloman
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good
at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea,
but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream  consensus that the virus
was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
No. Mainstream is that we will probably never know but that there were
no telltale signs of it being spliced together from other known
viruses. It has been sequenced and examined very widely which was what
made the mRNA vaccines possible once an invariant target protein was
identified.
I think that in fact there *were* telltale signs.
One geriatic nut-case thought that there were, but his arguments weren't
persuasive.
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The Natural Philosopher
2024-03-07 17:48:04 UTC
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Post by Bill Sloman
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good
at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea,
but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream  consensus that the virus was
cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
As far as I know, yes.

https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak%EF%BF%BC/

is a fairly good overview. The problem is that accusing China of being
uber sloppy was not politically *convenient*. So the default position
initially was a 'we just dont know'

Apparently now, we know a lot more...
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Rod Speed
2024-03-07 19:06:23 UTC
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2024 04:48:04 +1100, The Natural Philosopher
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by GB
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by Bill Sloman
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good
at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea,
but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream consensus that the virus was
cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
Nope.
Post by The Natural Philosopher
As far as I know, yes.
Fraid not.
Post by The Natural Philosopher
https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak%EF%BF%BC/
is a fairly good overview. The problem is that accusing China of being
uber sloppy was not politically *convenient*. So the default position
initially was a 'we just dont know'
Apparently now, we know a lot more...
And know that what was done experimentally is genetically
nothing like covid.
Peeler
2024-03-07 20:26:44 UTC
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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>
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Cursitor Doom
2024-03-07 19:08:59 UTC
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On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 17:48:04 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by GB
Post by Bill Sloman
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good
at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea,
but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream  consensus that the virus was
cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
As far as I know, yes.
https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak%EF%BF%BC/
is a fairly good overview. The problem is that accusing China of being
uber sloppy was not politically *convenient*. So the default position
initially was a 'we just dont know'
Apparently now, we know a lot more...
If they'd made it known that millions of people had died as a result
of a release of a Chinese bio-weapon, there would have been an
immediate clamor for a massive military response. Saying 'we don't
know' gives the West a bit of valuable breathing space to decide how
to deal with this emerging threat without triggering WW3. But I do
hope China will get it's come-uppance one fine day. They so fucking
deserve it.
Joe
2024-03-07 19:23:05 UTC
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On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 19:08:59 +0000
Post by Cursitor Doom
On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 17:48:04 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by GB
Post by Bill Sloman
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty
good at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a
stupid idea, but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream  consensus that the
virus was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
As far as I know, yes.
https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak%EF%BF%BC/
is a fairly good overview. The problem is that accusing China of
being uber sloppy was not politically *convenient*. So the default
position initially was a 'we just dont know'
Apparently now, we know a lot more...
If they'd made it known that millions of people had died as a result
of a release of a Chinese bio-weapon, there would have been an
immediate clamor for a massive military response. Saying 'we don't
know' gives the West a bit of valuable breathing space to decide how
to deal with this emerging threat without triggering WW3. But I do
hope China will get it's come-uppance one fine day. They so fucking
deserve it.
It wasn't just China...

https://nypost.com/2021/10/21/nih-admits-us-funded-gain-of-function-in-wuhan-despite-faucis-repeated-denials/

https://news.yahoo.com/nih-admits-funding-gain-function-125103852.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACPGaZ5dUJFM3q5AfcrA5yai45fdGG3fYRStdwAE3MyFcIuuVbjhdODrC9uQ1A6LkPTUjWl_y8le4SgMvvACZ5x16IR1_pOPgESFBYUgzj4cwPwtZk-heYt6_aG9uwn6DGb2nG0XNAx5OppmF3ArrFkja-d9TWqB8_U1lS1BLWYu
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Bill Sloman
2024-03-08 07:23:24 UTC
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Post by Joe
On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 19:08:59 +0000
Post by Cursitor Doom
On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 17:48:04 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by GB
Post by Bill Sloman
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty
good at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a
stupid idea, but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream  consensus that the
virus was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
As far as I know, yes.
https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak%EF%BF%BC/
is a fairly good overview. The problem is that accusing China of
being uber sloppy was not politically *convenient*. So the default
position initially was a 'we just dont know'
Apparently now, we know a lot more...
If they'd made it known that millions of people had died as a result
of a release of a Chinese bio-weapon, there would have been an
immediate clamor for a massive military response. Saying 'we don't
know' gives the West a bit of valuable breathing space to decide how
to deal with this emerging threat without triggering WW3. But I do
hope China will get it's come-uppance one fine day. They so fucking
deserve it.
It wasn't just China...
https://nypost.com/2021/10/21/nih-admits-us-funded-gain-of-function-in-wuhan-despite-faucis-repeated-denials/
https://news.yahoo.com/nih-admits-funding-gain-function-125103852.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACPGaZ5dUJFM3q5AfcrA5yai45fdGG3fYRStdwAE3MyFcIuuVbjhdODrC9uQ1A6LkPTUjWl_y8le4SgMvvACZ5x16IR1_pOPgESFBYUgzj4cwPwtZk-heYt6_aG9uwn6DGb2nG0XNAx5OppmF3ArrFkja-d9TWqB8_U1lS1BLWYu
That wasn't "gain of function" research. The question examined was
whether "“spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses
circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2 receptor
in a mouse model.”

The naturally occurring bat coronaviruses weren't modified in any way.
The question was whether they were potentially dangerous to humans, and
it got the right answer, though nobody seems to have acted on the
information obtained - not that they could have done much.
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Bill Sloman
2024-03-08 07:09:27 UTC
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Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by GB
Post by Bill Sloman
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good
at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea,
but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream  consensus that the virus
was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
As far as I know, yes.
But you don't know much, and don't go to any trouble to find out
evidence that you'd prefer not to know about.
Post by The Natural Philosopher
https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak%EF%BF%BC/
is a fairly good overview. The problem is that accusing China of being
uber sloppy was not politically *convenient*. So the default position
initially was a 'we just dont know'
Apparently now, we know a lot more...
But you can't point to any of this "new: information.
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The Natural Philosopher
2024-03-08 09:05:01 UTC
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Post by Bill Sloman
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by GB
Post by Bill Sloman
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good
at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea,
but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream  consensus that the virus
was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
As far as I know, yes.
But you don't know much, and don't go to any trouble to find out
evidence that you'd prefer not to know about.
Post by The Natural Philosopher
https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak%EF%BF%BC/
is a fairly good overview. The problem is that accusing China of being
uber sloppy was not politically *convenient*. So the default position
initially was a 'we just dont know'
Apparently now, we know a lot more...
But you can't point to any of this "new: information.
that site is the information dearie

https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak%EF%BF%BC/

Dont bully me. Take it up with them.
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thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly
persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid
before him."

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Bill Sloman
2024-03-08 10:55:53 UTC
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Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by GB
Post by Bill Sloman
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty
good at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid
idea, but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream  consensus that the virus
was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
As far as I know, yes.
But you don't know much, and don't go to any trouble to find out
evidence that you'd prefer not to know about.
Post by The Natural Philosopher
https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak%EF%BF%BC/
is a fairly good overview. The problem is that accusing China of
being uber sloppy was not politically *convenient*. So the default
position initially was a 'we just dont know'
Apparently now, we know a lot more...
But you can't point to any of this "new"information.
that site is the information dearie
https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak%EF%BF%BC/
Don't bully me. Take it up with them.
There's no information there. There are a few American senators who know
what they want to believe, but no facts at all.

Here is a fact or two that I posted earlier.

https://news.yahoo.com/nih-admits-funding-gain-function-125103852.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACPGaZ5dUJFM3q5AfcrA5yai45fdGG3fYRStdwAE3MyFcIuuVbjhdODrC9uQ1A6LkPTUjWl_y8le4SgMvvACZ5x16IR1_pOPgESFBYUgzj4cwPwtZk-heYt6_aG9uwn6DGb2nG0XNAx5OppmF3ArrFkja-d9TWqB8_U1lS1BLWYu

That wasn't "gain of function" research. The question examined was
whether "“spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses
circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2 receptor
in a mouse model.”

The naturally occurring bat coronaviruses weren't modified in any way.
The question was whether they were potentially dangerous to humans, and
it got the right answer, though nobody seems to have acted on the
information obtained - not that they could have done much.
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The Natural Philosopher
2024-03-08 11:05:07 UTC
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Post by Bill Sloman
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by Bill Sloman
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by GB
Post by Bill Sloman
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty
good at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid
idea, but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream  consensus that the virus
was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
As far as I know, yes.
But you don't know much, and don't go to any trouble to find out
evidence that you'd prefer not to know about.
Post by The Natural Philosopher
https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak%EF%BF%BC/
is a fairly good overview. The problem is that accusing China of
being uber sloppy was not politically *convenient*. So the default
position initially was a 'we just dont know'
Apparently now, we know a lot more...
But you can't point to any of this "new"information.
that site is the information dearie
https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak%EF%BF%BC/
Don't bully me. Take it up with them.
There's no information there. There are a few American senators who know
what they want to believe, but no facts at all.
Here is a fact or two that I posted earlier.
https://news.yahoo.com/nih-admits-funding-gain-function-125103852.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACPGaZ5dUJFM3q5AfcrA5yai45fdGG3fYRStdwAE3MyFcIuuVbjhdODrC9uQ1A6LkPTUjWl_y8le4SgMvvACZ5x16IR1_pOPgESFBYUgzj4cwPwtZk-heYt6_aG9uwn6DGb2nG0XNAx5OppmF3ArrFkja-d9TWqB8_U1lS1BLWYu
That wasn't "gain of function" research. The question examined was
whether "“spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses
circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2 receptor
in a mouse model.”
The naturally occurring bat coronaviruses weren't modified in any way.
The question was whether they were potentially dangerous to humans, and
it got the right answer, though nobody seems to have acted on the
information obtained - not that they could have done much.
"More than three years have passed since the first case of a new
coronavirus infection (SARS-CoV-2) in the city of Wuhan (Hubei, China).
The Wuhan Institute of Virology was founded in that city in 1956 and the
country’s first biosafety level 4 laboratory opened within that center
in 2015. The coincidence that the first cases of infection emerged in
the city where the virology institute’s headquarters is located, the
failure to 100% identify the virus’ RNA in any of the coronaviruses
isolated in bats, and the lack of evidence on a possible intermediate
animal host in the contagion’s transmission make it so that at present,
there are doubts about the real origin of SARS-CoV-2. This article will
review two theories: SARS-CoV-2 as a virus of zoonotic origin or as a
leak from the high-level biosafety laboratory in Wuhan."

...
"Do these findings close the discussion on the origins of SARS-CoV-2?

No. As can be seen, there are two theories that could coexist or the
debate could be closed by choosing one or the other. Defining chains of
infection and seeking the origin of them is a fundamental aspect of
public health. Therefore, on the one hand, it seems evident that the
transmission originated in the Huanan market. But, on the other hand,
three fundamental questions remain that have not been definitively
answered. First, where did the virus come from? Second, what was the
intermediate animal host? And third, why has the virus genome not been
reproduced 100% in any of the coronaviruses found in bats?"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10019034/

In short whilst there is no *conclusive* evidence one way or another the
balance of probability is that it was made in a lab but not as a
bioweapon. It was an accident.
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Bill Sloman
2024-03-08 14:28:44 UTC
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<snip>
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by Bill Sloman
There's no information there. There are a few American senators who
know what they want to believe, but no facts at all.
Here is a fact or two that I posted earlier.
https://news.yahoo.com/nih-admits-funding-gain-function-125103852.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACPGaZ5dUJFM3q5AfcrA5yai45fdGG3fYRStdwAE3MyFcIuuVbjhdODrC9uQ1A6LkPTUjWl_y8le4SgMvvACZ5x16IR1_pOPgESFBYUgzj4cwPwtZk-heYt6_aG9uwn6DGb2nG0XNAx5OppmF3ArrFkja-d9TWqB8_U1lS1BLWYu
That wasn't "gain of function" research. The question examined was
whether "“spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses
circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2
receptor in a mouse model.”
The naturally occurring bat coronaviruses weren't modified in any way.
The question was whether they were potentially dangerous to humans,
and it got the right answer, though nobody seems to have acted on the
information obtained - not that they could have done much.
"More than three years have passed since the first case of a new
coronavirus infection (SARS-CoV-2) in the city of Wuhan (Hubei, China).
The Wuhan Institute of Virology was founded in that city in 1956 and the
country’s first biosafety level 4 laboratory opened within that center
in 2015. The coincidence that the first cases of infection emerged in
the city where the virology institute’s headquarters is located, the
failure to 100% identify the virus’ RNA in any of the coronaviruses
isolated in bats, and the lack of evidence on a possible intermediate
animal host in the contagion’s transmission make it so that at present,
there are doubts about the real origin of SARS-CoV-2. This article will
review two theories: SARS-CoV-2 as a virus of zoonotic origin or as a
leak from the high-level biosafety laboratory in Wuhan."
...
"Do these findings close the discussion on the origins of SARS-CoV-2?
No. As can be seen, there are two theories that could coexist or the
debate could be closed by choosing one or the other. Defining chains of
infection and seeking the origin of them is a fundamental aspect of
public health. Therefore, on the one hand, it seems evident that the
transmission originated in the Huanan market. But, on the other hand,
three fundamental questions remain that have not been definitively
answered. First, where did the virus come from? Second, what was the
intermediate animal host? And third, why has the virus genome not been
reproduced 100% in any of the coronaviruses found in bats?"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10019034/
In short whilst there is no *conclusive* evidence one way or another the
balance of probability is that it was made in a lab but not as a
bioweapon. It was an accident.
A lab source is decidedly improbable.Labs don't hold a lot of viruses
and they keep them confined. A wet market offers a lot more
opportunities for an variants to be generated, and a lot more humans
exposed to a human-infectious variant.

The reason that Covid-19 virus has not been found in bats is that it's
spike protein doesn't latch onto the bat ACE-receptor,

There was a variants of the bat virus found in pangolin's that did have
a have a modified spike protein that would have latched onto a human
ACE-receptor, but it clearly wasn't related to Covid-19.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7926496/

talks about minks and badgers as intermediate hosts of Covid-19.

Badgers were bush-meat items at the Wuhan wet market. It got cleaned out
without anybody bothering to test whether any of the illegal bush meat
was infected.

The absence of evidence of an intermediate host isn't all that
surprising - a variant evolved that did do well in humans, but its
ancestor didn't have to do all that well in it's intermediate host.

The lab origin theory is an implausible theory ,The balance of
probablity doesn't remotely favour an accidental lab origin - labs have
many fewer animals, and they don't want them infecting one another or
the lab workers.
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On a sunny day (Thu, 7 Mar 2024 10:47:50 +0000) it happened Colin Bignell
<snip>
Post by Cursitor Doom
Post by Jan Panteltje
Its the evil US its Biological Warfare Department designed COVID
(Faulty or something was the bad guys name),
Fauci. That's his name. Remember it.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/covid-engineered-researchers-chinese-lab-wuhan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaze_Media
It is designed to appeal to right-wing half-wits like Cursitor Doom, who
likes his conspiracy theories to be thoroughly absurd.
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good at
keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea, but
Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
The wet market in Wuhan is a much more likely source - lots more
potentially infected bush meat, exposed to many more people.
The WHO carried out 50000 tests in China on wild animals, and never found
anything related to COVID.

The WHV is alleged to have a second building further along the same street
as the one we know about. It doesn’t have any nameplates, and the entrance
is at the back. No foreigners have been known to visit it.
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Bignell
<snip>
Post by Cursitor Doom
Its the evil US its Biological Warfare Department designed COVID
(Faulty or something was the bad guys name),
Fauci. That's his name. Remember it.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/covid-engineered-researchers-chinese-l=
ab-wuhan
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaze_Media
It is designed to appeal to right-wing half-wits like Cursitor Doom, =
who
Post by Bill Sloman
likes his conspiracy theories to be thoroughly absurd.
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good a=
t
Post by Bill Sloman
keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea, but
Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
The wet market in Wuhan is a much more likely source - lots more
potentially infected bush meat, exposed to many more people.
The WHO carried out 50000 tests in China on wild animals, and never fo=
und
anything related to COVID.
Yet. It took years to find the source of SARS in animals.
The WHV is alleged to have a second building further along the same =
street
as the one we know about. It doesn=E2=80=99t have any nameplates, and =
the =
entrance
is at the back. No foreigners have been known to visit it.
We do know that the dna of what was being used for the gain of function
tests is nothing like covid.
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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>
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On a sunny day (Thu, 7 Mar 2024 10:47:50 +0000) it happened Colin Bignell
<snip>
Post by Cursitor Doom
Post by Jan Panteltje
Its the evil US its Biological Warfare Department designed COVID
(Faulty or something was the bad guys name),
Fauci. That's his name. Remember it.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/covid-engineered-researchers-chinese-lab-wuhan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaze_Media
It is designed to appeal to right-wing half-wits like Cursitor Doom, who
likes his conspiracy theories to be thoroughly absurd.
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good at
keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea, but
Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
The wet market in Wuhan is a much more likely source - lots more
potentially infected bush meat, exposed to many more people.
The WHO carried out 50000 tests in China on wild animals, and never found
anything related to COVID.
The WHV is alleged to have a second building further along the same street
as the one we know about. It doesn’t have any nameplates, and the entrance
is at the back. No foreigners have been known to visit it.
If this mysterious building actually exists, it could just as easily be
an illegal gambling den.
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Post by Colin Bignell
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Gut health. *So* important!
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/alteration-gut-microbiota-affects-severity-and-complications-covid-19
A study in The Lancet reported no adverse effects from a man getting 217
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(24)00134-8/fulltext#sec1
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I never had a COVID shot and have no adverse effects
Never had a cold in my life, seem to have anti-bodies against it and some other things too,
like TBC, tested positive with an arm scratch test in primary school, got xrays 2 or 3 times,
nothing found, Now I am almost 80 ...
Recently was reading that they found a link between COVID shots and long-term COVID.
Many have died from blood cloth from the COVID shots.
Many sporters got heart trouble, some died on the playing field.
Its the evil US its Biological Warfare Department designed COVID (Faulty or something was the bad guys name),
Fauci. That's his name. Remember it.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/covid-engineered-researchers-chinese-lab-wuhan
Just the geographic "coincidence" is overwhelming, the virus origin
being within walking distance of the lab. The timing is telling too.

Megadeaths are not something that someone wants to be remembered for.
Cursitor Doom
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On a sunny day (Thu, 7 Mar 2024 10:47:50 +0000) it happened Colin Bignell
Post by Colin Bignell
Post by Cursitor Doom
Gut health. *So* important!
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/alteration-gut-microbiota-affects-severity-and-complications-covid-19
A study in The Lancet reported no adverse effects from a man getting 217
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(24)00134-8/fulltext#sec1
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Colin Bignell
I never had a COVID shot and have no adverse effects
Never had a cold in my life, seem to have anti-bodies against it and some other things too,
like TBC, tested positive with an arm scratch test in primary school, got xrays 2 or 3 times,
nothing found, Now I am almost 80 ...
Recently was reading that they found a link between COVID shots and long-term COVID.
Many have died from blood cloth from the COVID shots.
Many sporters got heart trouble, some died on the playing field.
Its the evil US its Biological Warfare Department designed COVID (Faulty or something was the bad guys name),
Fauci. That's his name. Remember it.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/covid-engineered-researchers-chinese-lab-wuhan
Just the geographic "coincidence" is overwhelming, the virus origin
being within walking distance of the lab. The timing is telling too.
Not to mention that blatant obstruction of the lab and the market by
the Chinese authorities when the WHO came to investigate.
It was a half-baked bio-weapon and we'd be fools not to take
appropriate steps now we know what the Chinese are up to.
Post by John Larkin
Megadeaths are not something that someone wants to be remembered for.
Bill Sloman
2024-03-08 07:40:03 UTC
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Post by Cursitor Doom
Post by Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Thu, 7 Mar 2024 10:47:50 +0000) it happened Colin Bignell
Post by Colin Bignell
Post by Cursitor Doom
Gut health. *So* important!
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/alteration-gut-microbiota-affects-severity-and-complications-covid-19
A study in The Lancet reported no adverse effects from a man getting 217
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(24)00134-8/fulltext#sec1
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Colin Bignell
I never had a COVID shot and have no adverse effects
Never had a cold in my life, seem to have anti-bodies against it and some other things too,
like TBC, tested positive with an arm scratch test in primary school, got xrays 2 or 3 times,
nothing found, Now I am almost 80 ...
Recently was reading that they found a link between COVID shots and long-term COVID.
Many have died from blood cloth from the COVID shots.
Many sporters got heart trouble, some died on the playing field.
Its the evil US its Biological Warfare Department designed COVID (Faulty or something was the bad guys name),
Fauci. That's his name. Remember it.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/covid-engineered-researchers-chinese-lab-wuhan
Just the geographic "coincidence" is overwhelming, the virus origin
being within walking distance of the lab. The timing is telling too.
Twaddle.
Post by Cursitor Doom
Not to mention that blatant obstruction of the lab and the market by
the Chinese authorities when the WHO came to investigate.
They weren't all that enthusiastic about being blamed for something that
they hadn't done.
Post by Cursitor Doom
It was a half-baked bio-weapon and we'd be fools not to take
appropriate steps now we know what the Chinese are up to.
Except that there's not a shred of evidence that it was any kind of
bio-weapon, and the Chinese would have been careful not to infect their
own population if it had been. One of the IASys biosensor units I worked
on was sold to UK's Porton Down, to look for the plague bacterium. There
haven't been any recent outbreaks of plague in the UK.
Post by Cursitor Doom
Post by John Larkin
Megadeaths are not something that someone wants to be remembered for.
Hitler deliberately killed six million Jews - he didn't seem to be all
that anxious about how he would be remembered.
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Post by Colin Bignell
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Gut health. *So* important!
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/alteration-gut-microbiota-affects-severity-and-complications-covid-19
A study in The Lancet reported no adverse effects from a man getting 217
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(24)00134-8/fulltext#sec1
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I never had a COVID shot and have no adverse effects
Never had a cold in my life, seem to have anti-bodies against it and some other things too,
like TBC, tested positive with an arm scratch test in primary school, got xrays 2 or 3 times,
nothing found, Now I am almost 80 ...
That is the result of early exposure to TB, as I had. It modifies the
T-cells and makes them more effective at fighting infections. You are
carrying TB, but, so long as your body defences remain strong, you won't
develop it.
Post by Jan Panteltje
Recently was reading that they found a link between COVID shots and long-term COVID.
Many have died from blood cloth from the COVID shots.
Many sporters got heart trouble, some died on the playing field...
Every medication carries risks. However, with the Covid vaccination, it
is well documented that the benefits greatly outweigh the risks.

<conspiracy theory snipped>
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