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amdx
2021-04-03 16:03:10 UTC
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/Golden Ratio, Constant Q, Cross-Field, pure copper Litz, conductor
technology./

It is said, wire is just wire. In reality, a high-end audio cable must
balance resistance, capacitance, inductance, conductance, velocity of
propagation, RF radiation and absorption, mechanical resonance, strand
interaction, high filtering, reflections, electrical resonance,
dissipation factors, envelope delay, phase distortion, harmonic
distortion, structural return loss, corrosion, cross-talk, bridge-tap
and the interaction of these and a hundred other things. As a high-end
cable manufacturer, Cardas Audio strives to address every detail of
cable and conductor construction, no matter how small.

An elegant solution deals with quality, not quantity. Cable geometry
problems are resolved in the cable’s design, not after the fact with
filters. George introduced the concept of Golden Section Constant "Q"
Stranding to high-end audio, but Golden Ratio, 1.6180339887... : 1 is as
old as nature itself. Golden Ratio is the mathematical proportion of
life itself, the heart of musical scales and chords. "Discovered" by the
Greeks, but used by the Egyptians in the Great Pyramid centuries before,
man has employed Golden Ratio to create his most beautiful and naturally
pleasing works of art and architecture.

And there's much more!

/http://www.cardas.com/insights_why.php/


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j***@highlandsniptechnology.com
2021-04-03 18:03:06 UTC
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/Golden Ratio, Constant Q, Cross-Field, pure copper Litz, conductor
technology./
It is said, wire is just wire. In reality, a high-end audio cable must
balance resistance, capacitance, inductance, conductance, velocity of
propagation, RF radiation and absorption, mechanical resonance, strand
interaction, high filtering, reflections, electrical resonance,
dissipation factors, envelope delay, phase distortion, harmonic
distortion, structural return loss, corrosion, cross-talk, bridge-tap
and the interaction of these and a hundred other things. As a high-end
cable manufacturer, Cardas Audio strives to address every detail of
cable and conductor construction, no matter how small.
An elegant solution deals with quality, not quantity. Cable geometry
problems are resolved in the cable’s design, not after the fact with
filters. George introduced the concept of Golden Section Constant "Q"
Stranding to high-end audio, but Golden Ratio, 1.6180339887... : 1 is as
old as nature itself. Golden Ratio is the mathematical proportion of
life itself, the heart of musical scales and chords. "Discovered" by the
Greeks, but used by the Egyptians in the Great Pyramid centuries before,
man has employed Golden Ratio to create his most beautiful and naturally
pleasing works of art and architecture.
And there's much more!
/http://www.cardas.com/insights_why.php/
                               Mikek
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Hilarious.

The Amazon RCA cables are nice. Two for $0.01, plus shipping.
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amdx
2021-04-03 21:12:20 UTC
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/Golden Ratio, Constant Q, Cross-Field, pure copper Litz, conductor
technology./
It is said, wire is just wire. In reality, a high-end audio cable must
balance resistance, capacitance, inductance, conductance, velocity of
propagation, RF radiation and absorption, mechanical resonance, strand
interaction, high filtering, reflections, electrical resonance,
dissipation factors, envelope delay, phase distortion, harmonic
distortion, structural return loss, corrosion, cross-talk, bridge-tap
and the interaction of these and a hundred other things. As a high-end
cable manufacturer, Cardas Audio strives to address every detail of
cable and conductor construction, no matter how small.
An elegant solution deals with quality, not quantity. Cable geometry
problems are resolved in the cable’s design, not after the fact with
filters. George introduced the concept of Golden Section Constant "Q"
Stranding to high-end audio, but Golden Ratio, 1.6180339887... : 1 is as
old as nature itself. Golden Ratio is the mathematical proportion of
life itself, the heart of musical scales and chords. "Discovered" by the
Greeks, but used by the Egyptians in the Great Pyramid centuries before,
man has employed Golden Ratio to create his most beautiful and naturally
pleasing works of art and architecture.
And there's much more!
/http://www.cardas.com/insights_why.php/
                               Mikek
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/
Hilarious.
The Amazon RCA cables are nice. Two for $0.01, plus shipping.
 I spent a little time looking for a price but didn't find one. I'm
sure that writer gets a

nice percentage of each sale. :-)

                               Mikek
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Rheilly Phoull
2021-04-03 22:35:09 UTC
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/Golden Ratio, Constant Q, Cross-Field, pure copper Litz, conductor
technology./
It is said, wire is just wire. In reality, a high-end audio cable must
balance resistance, capacitance, inductance, conductance, velocity of
propagation, RF radiation and absorption, mechanical resonance, strand
interaction, high filtering, reflections, electrical resonance,
dissipation factors, envelope delay, phase distortion, harmonic
distortion, structural return loss, corrosion, cross-talk, bridge-tap
and the interaction of these and a hundred other things. As a high-end
cable manufacturer, Cardas Audio strives to address every detail of
cable and conductor construction, no matter how small.
An elegant solution deals with quality, not quantity. Cable geometry
problems are resolved in the cable’s design, not after the fact with
filters. George introduced the concept of Golden Section Constant "Q"
Stranding to high-end audio, but Golden Ratio, 1.6180339887... : 1 is as
old as nature itself. Golden Ratio is the mathematical proportion of
life itself, the heart of musical scales and chords. "Discovered" by the
Greeks, but used by the Egyptians in the Great Pyramid centuries before,
man has employed Golden Ratio to create his most beautiful and naturally
pleasing works of art and architecture.
And there's much more!
/http://www.cardas.com/insights_why.php/
                                Mikek
/
/
Hilarious.
The Amazon RCA cables are nice. Two for $0.01, plus shipping.
 I spent a little time looking for a price but didn't find one. I'm
sure that writer gets a
nice percentage of each sale. :-)
                               Mikek
Still, you have to admire the prose used. Very creative :-)
u***@downunder.com
2021-04-04 04:43:48 UTC
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 06:35:09 +0800, Rheilly Phoull
Post by Rheilly Phoull
Post by amdx
Post by j***@highlandsniptechnology.com
Post by amdx
/Golden Ratio, Constant Q, Cross-Field, pure copper Litz, conductor
technology./
It is said, wire is just wire. In reality, a high-end audio cable must
balance resistance, capacitance, inductance, conductance, velocity of
propagation, RF radiation and absorption, mechanical resonance, strand
interaction, high filtering, reflections, electrical resonance,
dissipation factors, envelope delay, phase distortion, harmonic
distortion, structural return loss, corrosion, cross-talk, bridge-tap
and the interaction of these and a hundred other things. As a high-end
cable manufacturer, Cardas Audio strives to address every detail of
cable and conductor construction, no matter how small.
An elegant solution deals with quality, not quantity. Cable geometry
problems are resolved in the cable’s design, not after the fact with
filters. George introduced the concept of Golden Section Constant "Q"
Stranding to high-end audio, but Golden Ratio, 1.6180339887... : 1 is as
old as nature itself. Golden Ratio is the mathematical proportion of
life itself, the heart of musical scales and chords. "Discovered" by the
Greeks, but used by the Egyptians in the Great Pyramid centuries before,
man has employed Golden Ratio to create his most beautiful and naturally
pleasing works of art and architecture.
Is this the requirement for a digital SPDIF cable ?
Post by Rheilly Phoull
Post by amdx
Post by j***@highlandsniptechnology.com
Post by amdx
And there's much more!
/http://www.cardas.com/insights_why.php/
                                Mikek
/
/
Hilarious.
The Amazon RCA cables are nice. Two for $0.01, plus shipping.
 I spent a little time looking for a price but didn't find one. I'm
sure that writer gets a
Does it even reproduce Tchaikovsky's "1812 Overture" properly ? If
not, demand your money back :-).
Post by Rheilly Phoull
Post by amdx
nice percentage of each sale. :-)
                               Mikek
Still, you have to admire the prose used. Very creative :-)
D***@decadence.org
2021-04-04 18:13:09 UTC
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 06:35:09 +0800, Rheilly Phoull
Post by j***@highlandsniptechnology.com
Post by amdx
/Golden Ratio, Constant Q, Cross-Field, pure copper Litz,
conductor technology./
It is said, wire is just wire. In reality, a high-end audio
cable must balance resistance, capacitance, inductance,
conductance, velocity of propagation, RF radiation and
absorption, mechanical resonance, strand interaction, high
filtering, reflections, electrical resonance, dissipation
factors, envelope delay, phase distortion, harmonic
distortion, structural return loss, corrosion, cross-talk,
bridge-tap and the interaction of these and a hundred other
things. As a high-end cable manufacturer, Cardas Audio
strives to address every detail of cable and conductor
construction, no matter how small.
An elegant solution deals with quality, not quantity. Cable
geometry problems are resolved in the cable’s design, not
after the fact with filters. George introduced the concept of
Golden Section Constant "Q" Stranding to high-end audio, but
Golden Ratio, 1.6180339887... : 1 is as old as nature itself.
Golden Ratio is the mathematical proportion of life itself,
the heart of musical scales and chords. "Discovered" by the
Greeks, but used by the Egyptians in the Great Pyramid
centuries before, man has employed Golden Ratio to create his
most beautiful and naturally pleasing works of art and
architecture.
Is this the requirement for a digital SPDIF cable ?
Post by j***@highlandsniptechnology.com
Post by amdx
And there's much more!
/http://www.cardas.com/insights_why.php/
                              Â
  Mikek
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/
Hilarious.
The Amazon RCA cables are nice. Two for $0.01, plus shipping.
 I spent a little time looking for a price but didn't find
one. I'm
sure that writer gets a
Does it even reproduce Tchaikovsky's "1812 Overture" properly ?
If not, demand your money back :-).
They should invent an audio cable that transmits the 1812 Overture
over 1,812 miles with no loss or distortion that'd be fucking
amazing.
Two CD releases... The Barbara Streisand "the Broadway Album" was
one of the first CDs that contained DDD content.

Another was "Firesign Theater" "Eat or be eaten" which contained
warnings about blown woofers if cranked up too high when
transitioning from "Getting in" to "Getting Out", which was 100%
true.

I am sure that the dynamic range of modern DVD audio and even
Bluray DVD audio is even greater and certain pieces should be played
carefully if one tends to "crank it up".

The pulses an amplifier sends to a speaker matter slightly over
which cable they are sent by in high power settings. The audio link
cables on the input side matter very, very little. And folks have
even argued and demonstrated that fact with connections which include
"coat hangers".
u***@downunder.com
2021-04-05 06:06:49 UTC
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Post by amdx
And there's much more!
/http://www.cardas.com/insights_why.php/
                                Mikek
/
/
Hilarious.
The Amazon RCA cables are nice. Two for $0.01, plus shipping.
 I spent a little time looking for a price but didn't find one. I'm
sure that writer gets a
Does it even reproduce Tchaikovsky's "1812 Overture" properly ? If
not, demand your money back :-).
Those snake oil salesmen often claim that with their products you can
hear things that can't be heard with ordinary products,

The original 1802 sore calls for a battery of muzzle loaded cannons.
Firing such a cannon produces pressure variations well below 20 Hz
that can be felt.

Telarc made an LP in which the shots could be seem by just looking at
the disk grooves. Unfortunately the recording stylus had melted the
groove so badly that any high frequency contents was lost.

These days audio ADC and DACs usually go down to about 3 Hz, so it
would be easy to record to such lower frequencies. Apparently no
record producer dare to make such CD/DVD, since it would blow out the
speaker cones of any vented cabinet and the producer would end into
court despite warnings :-(,

----

I have never understood why audiophile people still prefer unbalanced
(RCA) connections with all their ground potential and other
interference issues the snake oil salesmen try to solve. A balanced
(e.g. XLR) would solve much of the i problems.

Why put everything into separate boxes ?. Using a more integrated
system, much less interconnection cables and less cabling"problems"
would occur.

It is strange that in a record player, the weak signal is transferred
with long (often) unbalanced cables into an amplifier to be amplified
and RIAA corrected. Why not sell a pick-up amplifier with the pick-up
and install it into the record player ? The amplifier input
characteristics (e.g. load capacitance) could be tailored to this
pick-up.

Why build high power full frequency range amplifiers but the speaker
box contains passive crossovers and exhibit exotic impedances. Why not
install into the speaker box an own smaller narrower band amplifiers
for each speaker element with exotic impedances (especially the
woofer). Use low level analog or digital crossovers inside the box.
This would eliminate much of the speaker cable myths. Just feed AC or
DC power into the box and the signal with preferable optic cable.
whit3rd
2021-04-05 06:28:06 UTC
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... Why not
install into the speaker box an own smaller narrower band amplifiers
for each speaker element with exotic impedances (especially the
woofer). Use low level analog or digital crossovers inside the box.
This would eliminate much of the speaker cable myths. Just feed AC or
DC power into the box and the signal with preferable optic cable.
Myths don't die when logic dictates.
Myths die when tale-tellers grow silent.
D***@decadence.org
2021-04-06 14:58:25 UTC
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On Sunday, April 4, 2021 at 11:06:53 PM UTC-7,
... Why not
install into the speaker box an own smaller narrower band
amplifiers for each speaker element with exotic impedances
(especially the woofer). Use low level analog or digital
crossovers inside the box. This would eliminate much of the
speaker cable myths. Just feed AC or DC power into the box and
the signal with preferable optic cable.
Myths don't die when logic dictates.
Myths die when tale-tellers grow silent.
Yeah... isn't it nice that the news no longer has the Dangerous
Buffoon plastered all over it anymore?

Or is that Dangerous Mythoon?
John Walliker
2021-04-05 10:16:40 UTC
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Why build high power full frequency range amplifiers but the speaker
box contains passive crossovers and exhibit exotic impedances. Why not
install into the speaker box an own smaller narrower band amplifiers
for each speaker element with exotic impedances (especially the
woofer). Use low level analog or digital crossovers inside the box.
This would eliminate much of the speaker cable myths. Just feed AC or
DC power into the box and the signal with preferable optic cable.
The BBC were routinely doing this in the late 1960s for studio monitors.
Mains power in and XLR balanced audio in. Another advantage of this
approach was that each drive unit could have its own overload protection
independent of the others.

John
u***@downunder.com
2021-04-05 17:49:32 UTC
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Post by John Walliker
Post by u***@downunder.com
Why build high power full frequency range amplifiers but the speaker
box contains passive crossovers and exhibit exotic impedances. Why not
install into the speaker box an own smaller narrower band amplifiers
for each speaker element with exotic impedances (especially the
woofer). Use low level analog or digital crossovers inside the box.
This would eliminate much of the speaker cable myths. Just feed AC or
DC power into the box and the signal with preferable optic cable.
The BBC were routinely doing this in the late 1960s for studio monitors.
Mains power in and XLR balanced audio in. Another advantage of this
approach was that each drive unit could have its own overload protection
independent of the others.
John
Especially for a subwoofer in the few hundred Watt class, no need for
a mains power transformer, just rectify the mains voltage. Isolate the
amplifier audio input with a small signal transformer and let the
amplifier and speaker float on the rectified AC inside the cabinet.
bitrex
2021-04-05 15:17:35 UTC
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Post by amdx
And there's much more!
/http://www.cardas.com/insights_why.php/
                                Mikek
/
/
Hilarious.
The Amazon RCA cables are nice. Two for $0.01, plus shipping.
 I spent a little time looking for a price but didn't find one. I'm
sure that writer gets a
Does it even reproduce Tchaikovsky's "1812 Overture" properly ? If
not, demand your money back :-).
Those snake oil salesmen often claim that with their products you can
hear things that can't be heard with ordinary products,
The original 1802 sore calls for a battery of muzzle loaded cannons.
Firing such a cannon produces pressure variations well below 20 Hz
that can be felt.
Telarc made an LP in which the shots could be seem by just looking at
the disk grooves. Unfortunately the recording stylus had melted the
groove so badly that any high frequency contents was lost.
These days audio ADC and DACs usually go down to about 3 Hz, so it
would be easy to record to such lower frequencies. Apparently no
record producer dare to make such CD/DVD, since it would blow out the
speaker cones of any vented cabinet and the producer would end into
court despite warnings :-(,
It's common in audio production (for genres like rock and pop at least,
I expect when recording a symphony or jazz trio producers try to stay
more faithful to the source material) to fairly aggressively high-pass
most instruments other than the bass drum and bass guitar in a large mix
at 200, 300, 400 Hz, even. for a given maximum dynamic range you can
only have a finite amount of energy in a given bandwith and the energy
in the bass frequencies tends to rapidly stack up and become
objectionable and "muddy", and if you then go to peak-limit the whole
mix to bring the average volume up you end up with a muddy and less
dynamic mix than you would have if there was less energy in that area to
start with.

And then it's common to use some amount of e.g. sidechain compression so
that the bass drum an bass guitar then don't "fight" with each other.
Post by u***@downunder.com
I have never understood why audiophile people still prefer unbalanced
(RCA) connections with all their ground potential and other
interference issues the snake oil salesmen try to solve. A balanced
(e.g. XLR) would solve much of the i problems.
Why put everything into separate boxes ?. Using a more integrated
system, much less interconnection cables and less cabling"problems"
would occur.
It is strange that in a record player, the weak signal is transferred
with long (often) unbalanced cables into an amplifier to be amplified
and RIAA corrected. Why not sell a pick-up amplifier with the pick-up
and install it into the record player ? The amplifier input
characteristics (e.g. load capacitance) could be tailored to this
pick-up.
Why build high power full frequency range amplifiers but the speaker
box contains passive crossovers and exhibit exotic impedances. Why not
install into the speaker box an own smaller narrower band amplifiers
for each speaker element with exotic impedances (especially the
woofer). Use low level analog or digital crossovers inside the box.
This would eliminate much of the speaker cable myths. Just feed AC or
DC power into the box and the signal with preferable optic cable.
I'm 42 and can't hear zip above about 13kHz, which seems about right for
my age.
boB
2021-04-05 21:06:15 UTC
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And there's much more!
/http://www.cardas.com/insights_why.php/
                                Mikek
/
/
Hilarious.
The Amazon RCA cables are nice. Two for $0.01, plus shipping.
 I spent a little time looking for a price but didn't find one. I'm
sure that writer gets a
Does it even reproduce Tchaikovsky's "1812 Overture" properly ? If
not, demand your money back :-).
Those snake oil salesmen often claim that with their products you can
hear things that can't be heard with ordinary products,
The original 1802 sore calls for a battery of muzzle loaded cannons.
Firing such a cannon produces pressure variations well below 20 Hz
that can be felt.
Telarc made an LP in which the shots could be seem by just looking at
the disk grooves. Unfortunately the recording stylus had melted the
groove so badly that any high frequency contents was lost.
I love the Telarc 1812 Overture version... Especially that cannon !

The CD version shows that the cannon is pretty well clipped too.

Still sounds good though. Shows that some things, even technical
audiophool things don't matter as much as they thinkk they do...

Hearing changes over time and that, I think, is what really
contributes to all the phoolishness.

I thought I could hear the difference when I could switch between 180
degree absolute phase shift (both channels) and zero degrees shift but
that fooled me.

boB
Post by u***@downunder.com
These days audio ADC and DACs usually go down to about 3 Hz, so it
would be easy to record to such lower frequencies. Apparently no
record producer dare to make such CD/DVD, since it would blow out the
speaker cones of any vented cabinet and the producer would end into
court despite warnings :-(,
----
I have never understood why audiophile people still prefer unbalanced
(RCA) connections with all their ground potential and other
interference issues the snake oil salesmen try to solve. A balanced
(e.g. XLR) would solve much of the i problems.
Why put everything into separate boxes ?. Using a more integrated
system, much less interconnection cables and less cabling"problems"
would occur.
It is strange that in a record player, the weak signal is transferred
with long (often) unbalanced cables into an amplifier to be amplified
and RIAA corrected. Why not sell a pick-up amplifier with the pick-up
and install it into the record player ? The amplifier input
characteristics (e.g. load capacitance) could be tailored to this
pick-up.
Why build high power full frequency range amplifiers but the speaker
box contains passive crossovers and exhibit exotic impedances. Why not
install into the speaker box an own smaller narrower band amplifiers
for each speaker element with exotic impedances (especially the
woofer). Use low level analog or digital crossovers inside the box.
This would eliminate much of the speaker cable myths. Just feed AC or
DC power into the box and the signal with preferable optic cable.
D***@decadence.org
2021-04-06 15:10:15 UTC
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Post by u***@downunder.com
Post by u***@downunder.com
Post by amdx
Post by j***@highlandsniptechnology.com
Post by amdx
And there's much more!
/http://www.cardas.com/insights_why.php/
                                Mikek
/
/
Hilarious.
The Amazon RCA cables are nice. Two for $0.01, plus shipping.
 I spent a little time looking for a price but didn't find one. I'm
sure that writer gets a
Does it even reproduce Tchaikovsky's "1812 Overture" properly ?
If not, demand your money back :-).
Those snake oil salesmen often claim that with their products you
can hear things that can't be heard with ordinary products,
The original 1802 sore calls for a battery of muzzle loaded
cannons. Firing such a cannon produces pressure variations well
below 20 Hz that can be felt.
Telarc made an LP in which the shots could be seem by just looking
at the disk grooves. Unfortunately the recording stylus had melted
the groove so badly that any high frequency contents was lost.
I love the Telarc 1812 Overture version... Especially that
cannon !
The CD version shows that the cannon is pretty well clipped too.
Still sounds good though. Shows that some things, even technical
audiophool things don't matter as much as they thinkk they do...
Hearing changes over time and that, I think, is what really
contributes to all the phoolishness.
I thought I could hear the difference when I could switch between
180 degree absolute phase shift (both channels) and zero degrees
shift but that fooled me.
boB
You spelled "phooled me" wrong.
boB
2021-04-07 23:37:13 UTC
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On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 15:10:15 +0000 (UTC),
Post by D***@decadence.org
Post by boB
Post by u***@downunder.com
Post by u***@downunder.com
Post by amdx
Post by j***@highlandsniptechnology.com
Post by amdx
And there's much more!
/http://www.cardas.com/insights_why.php/
                                Mikek
/
/
Hilarious.
The Amazon RCA cables are nice. Two for $0.01, plus shipping.
 I spent a little time looking for a price but didn't find one. I'm
sure that writer gets a
Does it even reproduce Tchaikovsky's "1812 Overture" properly ?
If not, demand your money back :-).
Those snake oil salesmen often claim that with their products you
can hear things that can't be heard with ordinary products,
The original 1802 sore calls for a battery of muzzle loaded
cannons. Firing such a cannon produces pressure variations well
below 20 Hz that can be felt.
Telarc made an LP in which the shots could be seem by just looking
at the disk grooves. Unfortunately the recording stylus had melted
the groove so badly that any high frequency contents was lost.
I love the Telarc 1812 Overture version... Especially that
cannon !
The CD version shows that the cannon is pretty well clipped too.
Still sounds good though. Shows that some things, even technical
audiophool things don't matter as much as they thinkk they do...
Hearing changes over time and that, I think, is what really
contributes to all the phoolishness.
I thought I could hear the difference when I could switch between
180 degree absolute phase shift (both channels) and zero degrees
shift but that fooled me.
boB
You spelled "phooled me" wrong.
Phool me once Phool me twice !

Something like that :)

bitrex
2021-04-04 13:35:45 UTC
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Post by amdx
/Golden Ratio, Constant Q, Cross-Field, pure copper Litz, conductor
technology./
It is said, wire is just wire. In reality, a high-end audio cable must
balance resistance, capacitance, inductance, conductance, velocity of
propagation, RF radiation and absorption, mechanical resonance, strand
interaction, high filtering, reflections, electrical resonance,
dissipation factors, envelope delay, phase distortion, harmonic
distortion, structural return loss, corrosion, cross-talk, bridge-tap
and the interaction of these and a hundred other things. As a high-end
cable manufacturer, Cardas Audio strives to address every detail of
cable and conductor construction, no matter how small.
An elegant solution deals with quality, not quantity. Cable geometry
problems are resolved in the cable’s design, not after the fact with
filters. George introduced the concept of Golden Section Constant "Q"
Stranding to high-end audio, but Golden Ratio, 1.6180339887... : 1 is as
old as nature itself. Golden Ratio is the mathematical proportion of
life itself, the heart of musical scales and chords. "Discovered" by the
Greeks, but used by the Egyptians in the Great Pyramid centuries before,
man has employed Golden Ratio to create his most beautiful and naturally
pleasing works of art and architecture.
And there's much more!
/http://www.cardas.com/insights_why.php/
                                Mikek
/
/
Hilarious.
The Amazon RCA cables are nice. Two for $0.01, plus shipping.
  I spent a little time looking for a price but didn't find one. I'm
sure that writer gets a
nice percentage of each sale. :-)
                                Mikek
Still, you have to admire the prose used. Very creative :-)
They're all electronics-words that mean something in certain contexts
and they used most of them, plus a hundred other words they didn't.
D***@decadence.org
2021-04-04 11:53:57 UTC
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Post by amdx
/Golden Ratio, Constant Q, Cross-Field, pure copper Litz,
conductor technology./
It is said, wire is just wire. In reality, a high-end audio cable
must balance resistance, capacitance, inductance, conductance,
velocity of propagation, RF radiation and absorption, mechanical
resonance, strand interaction, high filtering, reflections,
electrical resonance, dissipation factors, envelope delay, phase
distortion, harmonic distortion, structural return loss,
corrosion, cross-talk, bridge-tap and the interaction of these and
a hundred other things. As a high-end cable manufacturer, Cardas
Audio strives to address every detail of cable and conductor
construction, no matter how small.
An elegant solution deals with quality, not quantity. Cable
geometry problems are resolved in the cable’s design, not after
the fact with filters. George introduced the concept of Golden
Section Constant "Q" Stranding to high-end audio, but Golden
Ratio, 1.6180339887... : 1 is as old as nature itself. Golden
Ratio is the mathematical proportion of life itself, the heart of
musical scales and chords. "Discovered" by the Greeks, but used by
the Egyptians in the Great Pyramid centuries before, man has
employed Golden Ratio to create his most beautiful and naturally
pleasing works of art and architecture.
And there's much more!
/http://www.cardas.com/insights_why.php/
                               Mikek
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/
Hilarious.
The Amazon RCA cables are nice. Two for $0.01, plus shipping.
Yes, and through the FULL spectrum of human perceptible "audio"
range they distort nothing (especially over a three foot hop).

Audio dumbasses will pay big bucks for their FOOL spectrum "gear".

It is laughable. I have sen IEC power cords that are "premium"
priced at $1200 each.

Don't see super high prices on "Monster" cable crap any more, nor
do we ee the idiots filing suits against everybody and their brother
for using the term "monster" on their products which are not audio
products.
bitrex
2021-04-04 13:30:41 UTC
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Post by amdx
/Golden Ratio, Constant Q, Cross-Field, pure copper Litz,
conductor technology./
It is said, wire is just wire. In reality, a high-end audio cable
must balance resistance, capacitance, inductance, conductance,
velocity of propagation, RF radiation and absorption, mechanical
resonance, strand interaction, high filtering, reflections,
electrical resonance, dissipation factors, envelope delay, phase
distortion, harmonic distortion, structural return loss,
corrosion, cross-talk, bridge-tap and the interaction of these and
a hundred other things. As a high-end cable manufacturer, Cardas
Audio strives to address every detail of cable and conductor
construction, no matter how small.
An elegant solution deals with quality, not quantity. Cable
geometry problems are resolved in the cable抯 design, not after
the fact with filters. George introduced the concept of Golden
Section Constant "Q" Stranding to high-end audio, but Golden
Ratio, 1.6180339887... : 1 is as old as nature itself. Golden
Ratio is the mathematical proportion of life itself, the heart of
musical scales and chords. "Discovered" by the Greeks, but used by
the Egyptians in the Great Pyramid centuries before, man has
employed Golden Ratio to create his most beautiful and naturally
pleasing works of art and architecture.
And there's much more!
/http://www.cardas.com/insights_why.php/
牋牋牋牋牋牋牋牋牋牋牋牋牋牋牋 Mikek
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/
Hilarious.
The Amazon RCA cables are nice. Two for $0.01, plus shipping.
Yes, and through the FULL spectrum of human perceptible "audio"
range they distort nothing (especially over a three foot hop).
Audio dumbasses will pay big bucks for their FOOL spectrum "gear".
It is laughable. I have sen IEC power cords that are "premium"
priced at $1200 each.
The power traveled thru 127 miles of bird-shit encrusted aluminum cable
to get to your house but the last 3 feet makes all the difference /s
Post by D***@decadence.org
Don't see super high prices on "Monster" cable crap any more, nor
do we ee the idiots filing suits against everybody and their brother
for using the term "monster" on their products which are not audio
products.
D***@decadence.org
2021-04-04 18:05:21 UTC
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Post by bitrex
The power traveled thru 127 miles of bird-shit encrusted aluminum
cable to get to your house but the last 3 feet makes all the
difference /s
There are no 127 mile long audio cables, dumbfuck.

If you refer to the cable industry's hard line transmission links
(Aluminum sheathed foam core, copper center), Cable TV / Internet
service is a packetized digital domain, and that coupled with the
robust error correction schemas included means that NOTHING is lost,
and the audio quality is a function of the encapsulation methods
incorporated from the original capture, all the way down to the cable
modem you have dicing it back up for use.

If you refer to the power transmission which empowers the devices we
use within the home, you are expressing an even greater lack of
knowledge of what does and does not matter in a local audio
amplification and presentation hardware set. And if you were referring
to power transmission, it is an Aluminum strand WRAPPED steel carrier
line, so you lack a grasp of that realm as well.

The only thing the bird shit encrustments has done is bend your brain
for touching it or breathing the dust from it. D'Oh!
bitrex
2021-04-04 20:43:48 UTC
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Post by bitrex
The power traveled thru 127 miles of bird-shit encrusted aluminum
cable to get to your house but the last 3 feet makes all the
difference /s
There are no 127 mile long audio cables, dumbfuck.
If you refer to the cable industry's hard line transmission links
(Aluminum sheathed foam core, copper center), Cable TV / Internet
service is a packetized digital domain, and that coupled with the
robust error correction schemas included means that NOTHING is lost,
and the audio quality is a function of the encapsulation methods
incorporated from the original capture, all the way down to the cable
modem you have dicing it back up for use.
If you refer to the power transmission which empowers the devices we
use within the home, you are expressing an even greater lack of
knowledge of what does and does not matter in a local audio
amplification and presentation hardware set. And if you were referring
to power transmission, it is an Aluminum strand WRAPPED steel carrier
line, so you lack a grasp of that realm as well.
The only thing the bird shit encrustments has done is bend your brain
for touching it or breathing the dust from it. D'Oh!
Woosh....
D***@decadence.org
2021-04-05 01:01:14 UTC
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Post by D***@decadence.org
Post by bitrex
The power traveled thru 127 miles of bird-shit encrusted
aluminum cable to get to your house but the last 3 feet makes
all the difference /s
There are no 127 mile long audio cables, dumbfuck.
If you refer to the cable industry's hard line transmission links
(Aluminum sheathed foam core, copper center), Cable TV / Internet
service is a packetized digital domain, and that coupled with the
robust error correction schemas included means that NOTHING is
lost, and the audio quality is a function of the encapsulation
methods incorporated from the original capture, all the way down
to the cable modem you have dicing it back up for use.
If you refer to the power transmission which empowers the
devices we
use within the home, you are expressing an even greater lack of
knowledge of what does and does not matter in a local audio
amplification and presentation hardware set. And if you were
referring to power transmission, it is an Aluminum strand WRAPPED
steel carrier line, so you lack a grasp of that realm as well.
The only thing the bird shit encrustments has done is bend
your brain
for touching it or breathing the dust from it. D'Oh!
Woosh....
Your capacity to explain your stupid comments is only surpassed by
your inane non-capacity to do anything further other than yet another
stupid crack.

'Xplain yerself, dipshit. Even Lucy has more on the ball than a
pathetic mouthy little twerp like you. Woosh that up yer ass, Butt
Douche Boy. "/s"? Yeah... you stink too. Good job of being an
asswipe again.
amdx
2021-04-05 02:13:37 UTC
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Post by bitrex
The power traveled thru 127 miles of bird-shit encrusted aluminum
cable to get to your house but the last 3 feet makes all the
difference /s
There are no 127 mile long audio cables, dumbfuck.
If you refer to the cable industry's hard line transmission links
(Aluminum sheathed foam core, copper center), Cable TV / Internet
service is a packetized digital domain, and that coupled with the
robust error correction schemas included means that NOTHING is lost,
and the audio quality is a function of the encapsulation methods
incorporated from the original capture, all the way down to the cable
modem you have dicing it back up for use.
If you refer to the power transmission which empowers the devices we
use within the home, you are expressing an even greater lack of
knowledge of what does and does not matter in a local audio
amplification and presentation hardware set. And if you were referring
to power transmission, it is an Aluminum strand WRAPPED steel carrier
line, so you lack a grasp of that realm as well.
The only thing the bird shit encrustments has done is bend your brain
for touching it or breathing the dust from it. D'Oh!
   Careful, you're not even keeping up with your own comments.

                                     Mikek
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bitrex
2021-04-04 13:38:50 UTC
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Post by amdx
/Golden Ratio, Constant Q, Cross-Field, pure copper Litz, conductor
technology./
It is said, wire is just wire. In reality, a high-end audio cable must
balance resistance, capacitance, inductance, conductance, velocity of
propagation, RF radiation and absorption, mechanical resonance, strand
interaction, high filtering, reflections, electrical resonance,
dissipation factors, envelope delay, phase distortion, harmonic
distortion, structural return loss, corrosion, cross-talk, bridge-tap
and the interaction of these and a hundred other things. As a high-end
cable manufacturer, Cardas Audio strives to address every detail of
cable and conductor construction, no matter how small.
An elegant solution deals with quality, not quantity. Cable geometry
problems are resolved in the cable’s design, not after the fact with
filters. George introduced the concept of Golden Section Constant "Q"
Stranding to high-end audio, but Golden Ratio, 1.6180339887... : 1 is as
old as nature itself. Golden Ratio is the mathematical proportion of
life itself, the heart of musical scales and chords. "Discovered" by the
Greeks, but used by the Egyptians in the Great Pyramid centuries before,
man has employed Golden Ratio to create his most beautiful and naturally
pleasing works of art and architecture.
And there's much more!
/http://www.cardas.com/insights_why.php/
                               Mikek
/
/
Hilarious.
The Amazon RCA cables are nice. Two for $0.01, plus shipping.
Irony is the cables Cardas makes probably aren't even that good at the
frequencies where the words they use matter.

"and the interaction of these and a hundred other things."

It's often hard to understand and balance the interaction of three
parameters like that, much less a hundred of them!
bitrex
2021-04-04 13:40:21 UTC
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Post by amdx
/Golden Ratio, Constant Q, Cross-Field, pure copper Litz, conductor
technology./
It is said, wire is just wire. In reality, a high-end audio cable must
balance resistance, capacitance, inductance, conductance, velocity of
propagation, RF radiation and absorption, mechanical resonance, strand
interaction, high filtering, reflections, electrical resonance,
dissipation factors, envelope delay, phase distortion, harmonic
distortion, structural return loss, corrosion, cross-talk, bridge-tap
and the interaction of these and a hundred other things. As a high-end
cable manufacturer, Cardas Audio strives to address every detail of
cable and conductor construction, no matter how small.
An elegant solution deals with quality, not quantity. Cable geometry
problems are resolved in the cable’s design, not after the fact with
filters. George introduced the concept of Golden Section Constant "Q"
Stranding to high-end audio, but Golden Ratio, 1.6180339887... : 1 is as
old as nature itself. Golden Ratio is the mathematical proportion of
life itself, the heart of musical scales and chords. "Discovered" by the
Greeks, but used by the Egyptians in the Great Pyramid centuries before,
man has employed Golden Ratio to create his most beautiful and naturally
pleasing works of art and architecture.
And there's much more!
/http://www.cardas.com/insights_why.php/
                                Mikek
/
/
Hilarious.
The Amazon RCA cables are nice. Two for $0.01, plus shipping.
Irony is the cables Cardas makes probably aren't even that good at the
frequencies where the words they use matter.
or ANY good
Jeff Layman
2021-04-04 07:46:44 UTC
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Post by amdx
/Golden Ratio, Constant Q, Cross-Field, pure copper Litz, conductor
technology./
It is said, wire is just wire. In reality, a high-end audio cable must
balance resistance, capacitance, inductance, conductance, velocity of
propagation, RF radiation and absorption, mechanical resonance, strand
interaction, high filtering, reflections, electrical resonance,
dissipation factors, envelope delay, phase distortion, harmonic
distortion, structural return loss, corrosion, cross-talk, bridge-tap
and the interaction of these and a hundred other things. As a high-end
cable manufacturer, Cardas Audio strives to address every detail of
cable and conductor construction, no matter how small.
An elegant solution deals with quality, not quantity. Cable geometry
problems are resolved in the cable’s design, not after the fact with
filters. George introduced the concept of Golden Section Constant "Q"
Stranding to high-end audio, but Golden Ratio, 1.6180339887... : 1 is as
old as nature itself. Golden Ratio is the mathematical proportion of
life itself, the heart of musical scales and chords. "Discovered" by the
Greeks, but used by the Egyptians in the Great Pyramid centuries before,
man has employed Golden Ratio to create his most beautiful and naturally
pleasing works of art and architecture.
And there's much more!
/http://www.cardas.com/insights_why.php/
Amateurs!

We have a guy in the UK who has been selling this stuff for over 30
years. You can look through his website if you want a good laugh - or
maybe cry. This is the sort of thing he sells:
<https://www.russandrews.com/the-superkord500-sdii-uk-mains-w350i-ag-hc/>
--
Jeff
gray_wolf
2021-04-05 05:54:17 UTC
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Post by amdx
/Golden Ratio, Constant Q, Cross-Field, pure copper Litz, conductor
technology./
It is said, wire is just wire. In reality, a high-end audio cable must
balance resistance, capacitance, inductance, conductance, velocity of
propagation, RF radiation and absorption, mechanical resonance, strand
interaction, high filtering, reflections, electrical resonance,
dissipation factors, envelope delay, phase distortion, harmonic
distortion, structural return loss, corrosion, cross-talk, bridge-tap
and the interaction of these and a hundred other things. As a high-end
cable manufacturer, Cardas Audio strives to address every detail of
cable and conductor construction, no matter how small.
An elegant solution deals with quality, not quantity. Cable geometry
problems are resolved in the cable’s design, not after the fact with
filters. George introduced the concept of Golden Section Constant "Q"
Stranding to high-end audio, but Golden Ratio, 1.6180339887... : 1 is as
old as nature itself. Golden Ratio is the mathematical proportion of
life itself, the heart of musical scales and chords. "Discovered" by the
Greeks, but used by the Egyptians in the Great Pyramid centuries before,
man has employed Golden Ratio to create his most beautiful and naturally
pleasing works of art and architecture.
And there's much more!
/http://www.cardas.com/insights_why.php/
Amateurs!
We have a guy in the UK who has been selling this stuff for over 30 years. You
can look through his website if you want a good laugh - or maybe cry. This is
<https://www.russandrews.com/the-superkord500-sdii-uk-mains-w350i-ag-hc/>
I wonder what his annual sales are?
Jeff Layman
2021-04-05 07:13:54 UTC
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Post by Jeff Layman
Post by amdx
/Golden Ratio, Constant Q, Cross-Field, pure copper Litz, conductor
technology./
It is said, wire is just wire. In reality, a high-end audio cable must
balance resistance, capacitance, inductance, conductance, velocity of
propagation, RF radiation and absorption, mechanical resonance, strand
interaction, high filtering, reflections, electrical resonance,
dissipation factors, envelope delay, phase distortion, harmonic
distortion, structural return loss, corrosion, cross-talk, bridge-tap
and the interaction of these and a hundred other things. As a high-end
cable manufacturer, Cardas Audio strives to address every detail of
cable and conductor construction, no matter how small.
An elegant solution deals with quality, not quantity. Cable geometry
problems are resolved in the cable’s design, not after the fact with
filters. George introduced the concept of Golden Section Constant "Q"
Stranding to high-end audio, but Golden Ratio, 1.6180339887... : 1 is as
old as nature itself. Golden Ratio is the mathematical proportion of
life itself, the heart of musical scales and chords. "Discovered" by the
Greeks, but used by the Egyptians in the Great Pyramid centuries before,
man has employed Golden Ratio to create his most beautiful and naturally
pleasing works of art and architecture.
And there's much more!
/http://www.cardas.com/insights_why.php/
Amateurs!
We have a guy in the UK who has been selling this stuff for over 30 years. You
can look through his website if you want a good laugh - or maybe cry. This is
<https://www.russandrews.com/the-superkord500-sdii-uk-mains-w350i-ag-hc/>
I wonder what his annual sales are?
Not a great amount from their official company filing at
<https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/01968621/filing-history/MzI2MjA1NTQ0M2FkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0>

They seem to have been around quite a time though - since 1985.
--
Jeff
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